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Old 08-19-2005, 10:54 PM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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Default I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

Compare a 22 to a 55. I dont see how there's a major difference here. People get down to 4-5 handed, and everyone starts stealing blinds and pushing in position. I can safely say they might not play it nearly ICM perfect in a 22, but over a long period of time it is who win's the most 60/40's and coinflips near the bubble which takes a large sample size and luck on you side.

What am I missing here?
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

People make more mistakes at the lower levels.
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

Ok, say you push with A5o and you get called by a K7o who was getting 5-1 odds which is clearly a mistake. You're a 60/40 fav with no huge edge.

Please get it out of my head that winning these takes a shitload of luck winning coinflips and 60/40's.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

You know when you have AA in level one and someone raises to 45. You bump it up to 150 and he comes over the top with 88.

I suspect you won't see that as often at the 55s. And doubling up more often in level 1 does help your ROI a bit.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

You're not missing anything. Skill is a smaller part of the game than luck, but in the long run skill adds up and luck cancels out.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

Technically the long run, is really that: the long run. When I run a pokerstove it might run the hand 50,000 or 40,000,000 times. That's alot of hands to play so you can profit on a mistake your opponent made that made you a 60/40 favorite.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

The mistake about someone pushing 88 to your AA can and does happen. But, how often? Not readily by all means. In the majority of my 500 games at this level it can be 7 handed down to level 5. This is no different that a 33 or a 55, and then the luck factor comes into play on who wins the 60/40's and coinflips as the blinds rise.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

I'm not arguing with you.

I think how many hundreds or thousands of SNGs constitute the 'long run' has been pretty well fleshed out around here.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

Remember this?
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: I dont get what a huge difference there can be between limits

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The mistake about someone pushing 88 to your AA can and does happen. But, how often? Not readily by all means.

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That specific situation doesn't happen every SnG, but being paid off by worse hands happen much more often at the lower limits.
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