$55 - QQ on the button, limp reraised preflop.

octaveshift · #1 08-14-2005, 11:49 PM

What's your line here? The isolation raise didn't work, obviously.

***** Hand History for Game 2537231374 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14850936 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Sunday, August 14, 23:35:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 12379 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 5: bigsly8 ( $1690 )
Seat 6: philly7 ( $1145 )
Seat 10: docjerr ( $475 )
Seat 7: LAfadeaway ( $745 )
Seat 9: feltgod ( $985 )
Seat 1: OneBigB ( $1000 )
Seat 3: neckty24 ( $1995 )
Seat 2: Luan8888 ( $990 )
Seat 8: xyrophobic ( $975 )
Trny:14850936 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Qs Qd ]
OneBigB folds.
Luan8888 calls [15].
neckty24 folds.
bigsly8 folds.
philly7 folds.
LAfadeaway calls [15].
xyrophobic raises [125].
feltgod folds.
docjerr folds.
Luan8888 calls [110].
LAfadeaway raises [285].
xyrophobic ???

Paul Thomson · #2 08-15-2005, 12:11 AM

easy fold. You're at best slight ahead to two different AK. But IMO, you are dominated by AA more than half the time. Let it go.

And there is no need to raise so much in order to isolate. I'd think 75 would accomplish the same thing.

psyduck · #3 08-15-2005, 04:55 AM

So you're one of the idiots that's raising 9xBB with 2 limpers.

WTF? Raise to T75 preflop. Push to the limp-reraise.

tigerite · #4 08-15-2005, 06:32 AM

75's ok, 100 is also ok, 125 is a bit on the high side. Do you really think he plays AA like this, a limp in late position with an early position limper? No. More like a mid pair or some broadway crap. Push.

Myst · #5 08-15-2005, 08:01 AM

Dunno about the $22s anymore, but at the $55s, QQ plays horribly to a reraise.

tigerite · #6 08-15-2005, 08:03 AM

But why would he play AA like that? Or KK? I just can't believe that. I could just about see AK, perhaps. At the $22's I've seen donks do this with all kinds of crap. Usually mid pairs they suddenly think must be the holy nuts against "your AK". I'd push and feel comfortable with it with the preflop action as it happened.

Myst · #7 08-15-2005, 08:04 AM

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But why would he play AA like that? Or KK? I just can't believe that. I could just about see AK, perhaps. At the $22's I've seen donks do this with all kinds of crap. Usually mid pairs they suddenly think must be the holy nuts against "your AK". I'd push and feel comfortable with it with the preflop action as it happened.

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People are so LIMP happy these days with big pairs. Ive seen people limp AA, KK, and QQ after a LIMPER in Early Position!

tigerite · #8 08-15-2005, 08:06 AM

After a limper in early position, if they are in early position themselves, AA/KK isn't terrible - it's that "second hand low" bobbins. But to limp from late position after a limper from early position? That would be, well, strange. I just can't give a typical $22er credit here for having it. I've seen so many donkish raises like this with pairs like 77/88, in this situation. I don't think I've ever seen AA/KK played like this.

Karak567 · #9 08-15-2005, 08:12 AM

I think you will get shown 99-JJ and AK here often enough for you to push.

By the way... I think you need to raise a lot less pre-flop. Raising 9x BB after just 2 limpers? egh...

octaveshift · #10 08-15-2005, 04:19 PM

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I think you will get shown 99-JJ and AK here often enough for you to push.

By the way... I think you need to raise a lot less pre-flop. Raising 9x BB after just 2 limpers? egh...

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Yeah, I knew that PFR was going to attract a lot of attention. I was going to put a disclaimer in it, because I know it's too much. My problem is that I am sloppy/lazy with the slider, and I will sometimes get "close" to the number I want.

2 limpers = 30
Blinds = 20

So there's t50 in the pot, and I wanted to bet twice that, for t100. So I don't think 125 is *totally* outrageous, but it's certainly not ideal.

To the actual hand: I put him on AK/JJ- and pushed.