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Old 08-14-2005, 10:03 PM
rmarotti rmarotti is offline
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Default Clarkmeister at the Commerce 9/18

My table image is sort of "the retarded guy who is losing a lot of money." Villain is "the more retarded guy losing even more money."

I'm in the BB with red T4o one limper to the villain who overlimps. SB folds. I check. Flop is ATx, all spades. Checked around.

Turn is a red 5. I bet limper folds, villain calls.

River is the 9 of spades.

Clark him?
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:06 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: Clarkmeister at the Commerce 9/18

The chance you could get a better 10 or even a really weakly played A is so valuable here I think Clark is in order.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:46 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: Clarkmeister at the Commerce 9/18

If not here, then when?

I vote to clark that mother***ker as well!
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister at the Commerce 9/18

I've always assumed clarkmeister is a value bet far more than it is a bluff to get better hands to fold. I dunno if you can get him to fold a better hand anyway, he is retarded after all. If you think you can value bet against a worse hand, then go for it, but I think he's going to fold the river with a worse hand and check through anything that you beat, and likewise probably check through a lot of hands that beat you.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:59 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: Clarkmeister at the Commerce 9/18

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I've always assumed clarkmeister is a value bet far more than it is a bluff to get better hands to fold. I dunno if you can get him to fold a better hand anyway, he is retarded after all. If you think you can value bet against a worse hand, then go for it, but I think he's going to fold the river with a worse hand and check through anything that you beat, and likewise probably check through a lot of hands that beat you.

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That's the beauty of it.

Even terrible players will respect the 4 spades on board if they don't have one. And they will pride themselves on their "tough" laydown of middle pair and even top pair on occasion.
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister at the Commerce 9/18

Entity made a post about it some months ago explaining that the value bet against worse hands was far more important than the bluff big fold potential, that's what I was trying to explain, since nobody respects anything. But in this situation I don't see many worse hands calling.
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