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Old 08-14-2005, 04:16 AM
Dex Dex is offline
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Default Tinkering with stealing hands

My current, newly expanded steal range (from the button) includes, at the lower end:
J8o, 98s, T7s, 22, T8o, 97s, 87s, 76s, 65s

But, the following hands, which I'm not currently stealing with, rank higher against one random hand than those on the first list do:
K6o, K5o, Q5s, K4o, Q7o, Q4s

...and, if I simply swapped and started stealing with the second list and NOT with the first, my current steal percentage (a little over 42%) would be almost unaffected.

Should I switch? All of them? Some of them? What do you think?
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:23 AM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: Tinkering with stealing hands

Steal with all of them except 65s. Problem solved.
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Old 08-14-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Tinkering with stealing hands

What level are you playing at? At 3/6 was stealing with most of the hands you listed against the right players and folded them vs. good defenders. My ASB was around 41% and i was showing a miniscule profit of .0015 BB/hand in blind steal situations. The loose cold-callers in the SB were foiling my efforts. I took a long look at HU value of hands on pokerstove. I now fold all the hands you listed except 98s, 22, T8o, K6o and am running 36% ASB with much better win rates. Granted i'm winning less hands because i'm playing less. But, the time saved by not fighting for pennies allows more hands per hour at the same table.
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Old 08-14-2005, 06:43 PM
Poldi Poldi is offline
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Default Re: Tinkering with stealing hands

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But, the time saved by not fighting for pennies allows more hands per hour at the same table.

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I dont think that should influence any decision you make at all.
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:11 PM
TylerK TylerK is offline
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Default Re: Tinkering with stealing hands

I think it's good to consider the implied odds (negative or positive) for each of these types of hands, since you're not (obviously) going all-in preflop and running the cards out.
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:23 PM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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Default Re: Tinkering with stealing hands

What Jeff W said. Also, if you are stealing from super rocks, its "any 2 cards"
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