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Old 08-14-2005, 12:49 AM
droolie droolie is offline
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Default AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

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I have not seen villian show down a bluff in almost 100 hands. I've been raising a lot preflop and suspect the table is a bit sick of it as the blinds are being defended more liberaly. If anybody is paying attention they know I'm capable of folding when I raise pf and miss the flop.


Droolie has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP

Preflop
3 folds, droolie raises, the blinds both call


Flop (6SB)
J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
The blinds check and droolie bets, SB folds, BB raises, droolie reraises, BB calls

Despite this terrible board at this point I think I'm probably still ahead. BB's check-raise could easily be a single pair, draw or bluff but does a bluff call my 3-bet here?

Turn (6BB)
2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB bets, droolie ??

The infernal donkbet. I have a very hard time understanding what this means after the flop action.

What is your plan for the rest of the hand? Anybody fold this? If not hat river cards induce you to fold if any. Anybody raise the donk bet? Most importantly why do you do what you do here. Remememebr villian is unremarkeable so this would be your default line.

I'll tell you what I did later.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

I don't see giving Villan credit for QJ, here. I'd say more likely Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or perhaps AQ/KQ? Call the turn and raise the river.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

Sorry, left out the why. You're ahead, and you're likely to still be ahead on the river. This gets you one more BB, and you're ahead of anything but a river 3-bet (if that happens, I probably call and eviscerate the cat).
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

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I don't see giving Villan credit for QJ, here. I'd say more likely Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or perhaps AQ/KQ? Call the turn and raise the river.

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Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] raises this flop approximately never, but AQ/KQ would seem to fit right into line with villain's play. It's a hand that can easily call a raise from the big blind while not quite being strong enough to raise with. A flopped straight would never be so bold as to bet on this turn. Why bet when you can check and kill all your action with a raise? I think we're up against an AQ, and like bozlax said, we can raise a non-straight card river for value.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

I'd call down. I think there are too many possibilites to fold or raise anywhere.

I really don't want to be 3-bet by two-pair on the turn.

I think raising the river and calling a 3-bet would be pretty much the worst line you could take there.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

Ooh, ooh, Mistah Kottah! What about K9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

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I think raising the river and calling a 3-bet would be pretty much the worst line you could take there.

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You're just calling down, or do you raise/fold the river?
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

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Ooh, ooh, Mistah Kottah! What about K9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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If droolie's read about BB playing sheriff to stop the big bad blind stealer is right, then that would be a perfect hand. From Villain's perspective he sees the blind stealer making a continuation bet on the flop, but we've got bottom pair and a backdoor so we'll raise him, blind stealer 3-bets so okay we're probably behind, call, see the turn, picked up our flush draw and bet out to keep him guessing. I think a hand like that is pretty reasonable here. Good play, Epstein.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:42 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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I have not seen villian show down a bluff in almost 100 hands. I've been raising a lot preflop and suspect the table is a bit sick of it as the blinds are being defended more liberaly. If anybody is paying attention they know I'm capable of folding when I raise pf and miss the flop.

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I'm just calling down. A two pair hand really concerns me at the donkbet. It looks like he wants to see a non-ten and non-king (and to a lesser extent a non-eight) before continuing his aggression. He *might* have flopped the straight and is just being a total donk ("If I cap, he might slow down."). There is one hand that could do this that you beat: QT. He wants to see a "good" card (no ace, no ten) on the turn before he fires some more.

I don't give credit for a player adjusting to aggressive defense until he shows me something that he defended aggressively. Most players adjust to playing looser and more passive (lots of calling down) if they think you're trying to run them over. They aren't willing to spend extra to push back at you (their loss). In fact, my reading of "defended more liberally" simply means they're just calling more often instead of folding or 3-betting.
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: AA in HU action. What do you do and why?

I called the turn donkbet. I will tell you why later.

No one mentioned any cards that would make them consider folding but what about this one???

River (8BB)
J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB bets, droolie??

Now what?? I certainly couldn't have thought of a worse card at that point.
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