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Old 08-12-2005, 12:55 PM
DontRaisePlz DontRaisePlz is offline
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Default AA, slightly passive player bets into me

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero???

Did I even play correctly on the flop? I figured 4-flushes are calling anyway, kings may 3-bet me, a raise might scare out hands like 66/77 or an 8 from calling, and there are no other draws. Only problem is I did not define my hand, he may bet diamonds or 99 into me.
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Old 08-12-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

I raise the flop, and then puke on the turn. The cards were falling for me this way last night. Poker sucks.
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

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I raise the flop, and then puke on the turn. The cards were falling for me this way last night. Poker is rigged.

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FYP.

To OP: Raise the flop, fold the turn. You're drawing to two outs without the proper odds.
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:13 PM
666shooter 666shooter is offline
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

I'm raising the flop. If he 3-bets, I'm capping. If he checks the turn, I'm betting. If he bets the turn, I'm folding because if he is passive I doubt he will bet the turn after the capped flop unless he had the K or the 8.
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:20 PM
nomadtla nomadtla is offline
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

If I raised/capped this on the flop I would feel a lot better about being passive with that 8 on the turn.
preflop: standard
Flop: raise/cap if 3 bet
Turn: call or let it go here if you're going to fold it at all
River: call or check behind
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:30 PM
OrianasDaad OrianasDaad is offline
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

Raise the flop, and don't be afraid of a 3-bet. You are disciplined enough of a player to fold Aces in this spot.

Turn is an easy fold.
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Old 08-12-2005, 01:50 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

Why do people want to raise the flop?
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:04 PM
Thebram Thebram is offline
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

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Why do people want to raise the flop?

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Because there are plenty of hands that we beat, that would bet into us on this flop?
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:17 PM
mojobluesman mojobluesman is offline
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

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Why do people want to raise the flop?

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That's a fair question.

I think plenty of people will bet a pocket pair or x8 in this situation. Some will bet a flush draw. So there's plenty of hands you are ahead of. I think you raise for value and if he pops it again you know you are in trouble.

Plus, many people would slowplay trip Ks or check raise etc... So I think the chances he has 3Ks, is actually not as high as you would think.
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: AA, slightly passive player bets into me

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Why do people want to raise the flop?

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Because there are plenty of hands that we beat, that would bet into us on this flop?

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isn't that the point of simply calling? why fold hands that are drawing thin or bluffing?
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