A couple hands my friend played

BWebb · #1 08-11-2005, 10:33 PM

A friend of mine is starting to play seriously and has been sending me hand histories for review. Here are two hands he played. I gave advice to him, but I want to make sure that it was okay. I'm sure these belong in Micro, but I'm more familiar with the posters here, so bear with me.

Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls, UTG raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

River: (12.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, CO raises, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB

Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, CO raises, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

tyler_cracker · #2 08-11-2005, 11:20 PM

In hand 1, why not raise the turn and try and knock the other dorks out? Looks like this raise would have saved the pot for Hero. We might well slow UTG down if he puts us on AQ/AJ.

Hand 2 looks good. We have terrible relative position for trying to protect our hand, and the board keeps getting worse. Good fold on the river while not closing the action.

Evan · #3 08-11-2005, 11:27 PM

Tell your buddy he needs to be more aggressive on the turn.

mlb3zr · #4 08-12-2005, 12:35 AM

1. don't lead into 4 on a board with that much broadway, it likely caught someone. then he makes his hand on the turn and doesn't raise? not good. and if he is absolutely compelled to show down on that river, check/call.

2. raise the turn, make T's and spades pay for their draws.

BWebb · #5 08-12-2005, 12:42 AM

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Tell your buddy he needs to be more aggressive on the turn.

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Both hands or just hand 1? I think Hand 1 is a definite turn raise, which is what I told him. Hand 2 I think he played okay. Raising the turn doesn't protect his hand and it probably won't make anyone that we want to fold actually do it.

Edited to say glad you are now unbanned, you rebel you! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

BWebb · #6 08-12-2005, 12:45 AM

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2. raise the turn, make T's and spades pay for their draws.

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This is a bad idea, IMO. If we raise the turn, the others will be getting 12-14:1 on their call (if they have a spade or 10). These odds are more than good enough to call with those hands, so why charge ourselves 2 bets when we have to dodge a lot of cards on the river? Our pot equity is not that great in this spot, but it is good enough to warrant a call.

mlb3zr · #7 08-12-2005, 12:58 AM

I agree, this board sucks and nobody that we want to fold is going away. but with 3 opponents I think he has enough equity to raise (not by much, but enough).

MrEngenic · #8 08-12-2005, 11:51 AM

Hand 1: Check the flop. This flop probably hit someone and you won't win with a flop bet.
I'm not sure what to do on the turn. UTG checkraises the flop, trapping everyone = flush draw, open ended straight draw or a very strong hand. A raise is probably the best thing to do to protect your hand and make him pay if he has a flush draw.

Hand 2: Consider folding the flop. You have a one card gutshot which may very well win half the pot with so many callers and your overcards are probably no good here. You could be looking at 4 or even 2-3 outs to a split and someone could have a flush or full house redraw if you hit on the turn. The pot is big, so calling is probably not a big mistake though, but it's not an automatic call.