Turn decision

Vaftrudner · #1 08-11-2005, 06:12 AM

Villain is 33/18/3 over 33 hands. Maybe little over aggro but ok. BB is a retard. How would you play the turn here?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero...?

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goofball · #2 08-11-2005, 06:20 AM

I think betfold is a good line. Or checkfold. What is he raising the flop with that you are now ahead of?

Mr Gee · #3 08-11-2005, 06:44 AM

I'd go with bet fold. You don't want to give overcards a free chance to improve. His response to your bet here should give you a good indication if you're ahead or behind.

goofball · #4 08-11-2005, 06:49 AM

Yeah betfold is good.

Vaftrudner · #5 08-11-2005, 06:58 AM

Eh...what about odds? /v

aK13 · #6 08-11-2005, 07:06 AM

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3 clean outs to a straight, 1 to a set = 4 outs (your club outs are not clean).

You won't have enough to draw, especially since you might be drawing dead already.

Vaftrudner · #7 08-11-2005, 07:14 AM

Eh... 4 clean outs but don't you think you got one more on average = 5? I mean, he doesn't have clubs all the time does he? So if you bet and get raised you *have* to call, yes? And if you check he *might* check behind? /v

Mr Gee · #8 08-11-2005, 07:15 AM

You mean for calling his raise? You've got four reasonably good outs. I think the fact that he could have a hand that still beats you on the river (flush, higher set than 5s), cancels out the fact that your club outs might be okay. You're getting just under 10-1 to call. Four outs is just under 11-1.

I'd still say it's a bet fold.

dave44 · #9 08-11-2005, 12:58 PM

I think bet-fold is terrible here. Why are you trying to push an overaggressive player off his hand? Check and call what could easily still be the best hand and give yourself a chance to improve while your at it.

JrJordan · #10 08-11-2005, 01:07 PM

I would donk bet again to avoid giving overcards a free card here. Vs, most people I can find a fold if they raise as well. Depending on the river I might value bet to get a call from AQ/AK.