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Old 08-07-2005, 02:55 PM
Dhani Dhani is offline
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Default callers to the end (NO MATTER WHAT)

Please feel free to give any feedback on the subject of Maniacs, and Calling stations in low limit Holdem.
Example:

2nd pos holds: A5 diamonds
Hero in 5th pos : A5 clubs
7th pos holds: 77
BB holds: A J off.
preflop-
2nd pos calls
5th pos calls
7th pos calls
BB raises to 2 bets
2nd calls 2 bets
Hero calls 2 bets
7th pos raises to 3 bets
BB caps
2nd pos calls cap
Hero calls cap

FLOP: Ah 5c 5H
BB bets
2nd pos raises 2bets
Hero raises 3 bets
7th pos cold calls 3 bets
BB caps
all call
TURN: 8h
BB bets
2nd pos raises
Hero cold calls 2 bets
7th pos cold calls 2 bets
BB calls
RIVER: 7c
BB bets
2nd pos raises 2 bets
Hero raises 3 bets
7th pos caps
BB folds
2nd and Hero call.
WHAT WAS THE GUY WITH 77 THINKING???????????
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Old 08-07-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: callers to the end (NO MATTER WHAT)

You need to understand that you're making tons of money by having this sort of guy at your table.

What's with you're coldcall on the turn? You're behind precisely one hand.
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Old 08-07-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: callers to the end (NO MATTER WHAT)

He is thinking that a 7 will come and he'll win a huge pot. And if it doesn't come he'll think maybe everyone in the world was just bluffing and my 7's are good.

This is like asking why the guys at the craps table keep betting the hardways? They do it because it's fun, it's action and they crave and need the action. In this case the guy is putting 92 cents on the dollar into the pot every time he calls. That is about as close to a free gift as you will ever get in poker. Be happy, even if he catches his miracle card.
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Old 08-07-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: callers to the end (NO MATTER WHAT)

thought he had AA
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Old 08-07-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: callers to the end (NO MATTER WHAT)

I've seen this live, and the pocket pair guy explained on the river "You just can't fold pocket pairs". I've also heard people "teaching" holdem to others, "a pocket pair is a good hand here, because you could hit a set" (on a terrifying board).

Both comments caused the entire table to do that nodding uh huh thing. Apparently lots of low limit players believe this. Be happy.
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Old 08-07-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: callers to the end (NO MATTER WHAT)

why be happy? no sarcasm
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Old 08-07-2005, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: callers to the end (NO MATTER WHAT)

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why be happy? no sarcasm

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Because he's donating multiple bets to you the majotiy of the time and collecting multiple bets from you the minority of the time. If you play this hand through the turn 100 times and we deal a new river card each time, do you think he makes more money off of you than you do off of him?
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