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Old 08-05-2005, 10:32 AM
ftball0000 ftball0000 is offline
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Default JTs on the bubble

Hey guys,

Just started playing more tournaments and have busted out 4th 4 consecutive times, are plays like the one below too risky?

***** Hand History for Game 2481667760 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14564196 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 05, 10:27:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 39777 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button


Total number of players : 4
SB ( $1110 )
Hero/BB ( $935 )
Button ( $2485 )
CO ( $3470 )
Trny:14564196 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Jh Th ]
CO folds.
Button raises [400].
SB folds.
Hero is all-In [735]


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-Ftball
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:36 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: JTs on the bubble

No, I wouldn't do this, you have zero FE against the button. Unless he's a total fool. I would, I think, stop-and-go here.
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: JTs on the bubble

Ok, I see what you are saying.... b/c he already has chips in and the riase is so small, he has to call just b/c of odds. This is what you mean correct.

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Old 08-05-2005, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: JTs on the bubble

Yes. Whereas if you just call, then push any flop (as you'll be acting first), it's going to make it much harder for him, especially if it's all rags and he has AK, or KQx and he has 99, and so on. (The last one would be great for you anyway, with 14 outs)
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Old 08-05-2005, 10:56 AM
TheMainEvent TheMainEvent is offline
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Default Re: JTs on the bubble

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KQx and he has 99, and so on. (The last one would be great for you anyway, with 14 outs)

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Old 08-05-2005, 10:57 AM
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Argh! Sorry J outs (3) T outs (3) straight outs (4 A, 2 9) making 12. Ok, change it to 88 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:03 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: JTs on the bubble

I generally do not get involved in a raised pot unless I have a very strong hand, or am about to bust out.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: JTs on the bubble

While JTs is a good hand, I would much rather be first in with it. If you think that it will likely be folded to you next hand in the SB, I would fold here and push next hand to get your 200 back, or at least have some greater FE. Also, I hope that unless you had complete garbage that you pushed the previous hand to this one UTG with ~5 BB. At that stack size you have to gamble in level 6, so you might as well be the one pushing.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:06 AM
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Problem is, if you fold Hero only has $735 after posting the blind, which is ~3.5BB. Your FE is all but gone, and you'll have to push when the other shorty is in the BB.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:07 AM
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Actually, if you wait til the next hand to push, the person who is currently CO (the big stack) will be BB, the other shorty will be button. If I am reading this correctly.
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