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#1
08-03-2005, 01:25 AM
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For Baronzeus.. the LRR!
Villian 83/20/1 over 100 hands, raises weird stuff, gets aggro in weird places, 80% WTSD
Party Poker (6 max, 5 handed) Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, SB calls. Flop: (12 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, SB calls. Turn: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. River: (10 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. Final Pot: 10 BB I was looking for that 23s. Didn't find it. If I was ever to find one, it would be from this guy. But I'll keep on trucking [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] 
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#4
08-03-2005, 01:33 AM
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Re: For Baronzeus.. the LRR!
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Bet the river, and I'm not capping preflop. [/ QUOTE ] You bet the river. I don't want to waste a BB. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Also, I capped PF on the offchance that he was going nuts on some weird hand, and I wanted UTG out. He was pretty loose, and I had a chance. Didn't work PF, but oh well. And betting the river seems worse than capping PF.
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#5
08-03-2005, 01:34 AM
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Re: For Baronzeus.. the LRR!
Capping preflop isn't horrible, but NOT betting this river is also pretty bad. Seriously, this guys LRR range is probably huge, who knows. Cost yourself 1BB. It's ok. You'll get'em next time.
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#6
08-03-2005, 01:36 AM
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Re: For Baronzeus.. the LRR!
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[ QUOTE ] Bet the river, and I'm not capping preflop. [/ QUOTE ] You bet the river. I don't want to waste a BB. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Also, I capped PF on the offchance that he was going nuts on some weird hand, and I wanted UTG out. He was pretty loose, and I had a chance. Didn't work PF, but oh well. And betting the river seems worse than capping PF. [/ QUOTE ] The K really changes nothing. An 83/20/1 player who complete-reraised preflop is going to have a worse hand that he's calling with way more often than he'll have a King. Capping preflop is a lot worse than betting the river. Keep the pot small and look for a favorable situation postflop where you can push UTG out from SB's auto-flopbet. Rob
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#7
08-03-2005, 01:41 AM
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Re: For Baronzeus.. the LRR!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Bet the river, and I'm not capping preflop. [/ QUOTE ] You bet the river. I don't want to waste a BB. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Also, I capped PF on the offchance that he was going nuts on some weird hand, and I wanted UTG out. He was pretty loose, and I had a chance. Didn't work PF, but oh well. And betting the river seems worse than capping PF. [/ QUOTE ] The K really changes nothing. An 83/20/1 player who complete-reraised preflop is going to have a worse hand that he's calling with way more often than he'll have a King. Capping preflop is a lot worse than betting the river. Keep the pot small and look for a favorable situation postflop where you can push UTG out from SB's auto-flopbet. Rob [/ QUOTE ] Hmm. That makes sense PF. But this whole post is my attempt at subtle mockery. He of course had aces, and like I said, I'm still looking for someone to LRR with something else. I've seen this move seven or eight times in my poker career, and ever time but one it was aces, the other it was pocket queens. Do you guys really run into this play with any frequency? Given my experience, that doesn't really make for a value bet on the river.
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#8
08-03-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: For Baronzeus.. the LRR!
If you really want I can tread through my database and find hands that donks have LRRed, and show that it's been done with J4o once and Q9o once, and 78s once. This is just off the top of my head. But I don't need to. Because you will see for yourself.
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#10
08-03-2005, 01:56 AM
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Re: For Baronzeus.. the LRR!
When a thorough analysis of all the data is in (perhaps from the Freakonomics guy?) I think you will find that the LRR is composed of:
74% AA/KK 21% small/medium pairs and suited connectors 5% random crap /mc
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