Limit o8 - Call flop raise here?

[anatta]

4-8 live game. I am in MP and limp behind UTG with

Ac 5c Kh Th. This is a good game with many players seeing the flop with bad hands and going too far. I am new at 0-8. We see the flop 5 way.

Flop Qs Js 5d. So I have a 13 out str8 draw (is this a so-called "wrap"?), but 4 are tainted by spades.

BB bets and SB calls, and UTG raises. Its on me. I am getting about 4:1 current, and it could get re-raised. If I hit on turn, it appears that 19 out of 44 unseen cards (43% or so) make a flush or full house.

This looks like a call since I can miss on the turn, but if it doesn't pair or spade, I still have 9 outs to the scoop (if I don't chop). Oh, I just noticed that my Ace outs aren't so good...

Comments?

[sy_or_bust]

First, I would fold preflop. You're in early position with a dangler hand. The 2 flush draws are pretty good, and the AKT is OK, but the A5 can get you in trouble and you should certainly fold if you're new to O/8.

I tend to fold the flop in these situations. It's not so unusual to hit your high straight and get quartered, plus the flush draw (and even backdoor low) really hurt you. You don't even have a backdoor flush draw. The flop call hinges on the question of how bad are these players?

Usually you're up against at least ATs and possibly a set or wrap to boot. With weaker ranges, and if BB/SB will typically call and rarely raise, you can probably call.

[correia]

I agree with folding PF here. You say everyone is playing bad, but your hand is marginal and theres no real reason to get involved in EP here. But on the flop i would probably just fold, although a possible backdoor flush might lead me see one more. If the SB has a set or two pair hes probably going to reraise though and then you'll have to call 1 or 2 addition bets with just a weak draw.