Think I'm ahead, good line?

bkfizz02 · #1 08-01-2005, 02:58 PM

I had a frustrating session when this hand came up. I had been giving too many free cards and decided to stop doing that so much.

Villain is VPIP%/PFR/AF 15/4/12 over 200+ hands. I have only seen him show down blinds and QQ-AA,AK,AQ otherwise.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (10 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($42.30)
UTG ($9)
UTG+1 (Villain) ($25)
UTG+2 ($26.45)
MP1 ($27.45)
MP2 ($26.30)
MP3 ($17.20)
CO ($30.45)
Button ($10.55)
SB ($24.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Villain raises to $0.85, 7 folds, Hero calls $0.60.

Flop: ($1.80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $1.8, Hero raises to $7.2, Villain raises to $23.4, Hero raises to $28.8, Villain calls all in $24.15.

Turn: ($50.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($50.10)A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $50.10

Preflop, even though the raise is small, I put him on a premium holding. He is in an earlier position and may plan to reraise, who knows. I know he is aggressive postflop.

Flop : Decide since he always continuation bets to go for c/r. My thinking is that I'm not sure what cards are going to hurt me and I want him to get committed with the worst of it, or end it right now. I'm thinking his principle holdings are AA, KK[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], QQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or AK[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] after he reraises me. I don't see him raising preflop with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in an early position.

So, since I'm not sure if he's looking for (a) the board to pair or (b) a fourth spade, am I correct in trying to get all in on the flop?
Also, did I go about it the right way with the c/r given his postflop aggression?

theben · #2 08-01-2005, 03:13 PM

i hope you didnt lose to river quads

BigF · #3 08-01-2005, 03:18 PM

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i hope you didnt lose to river quads

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If he did lose to a rivered quads he should pat himself on the back.

stealyourface · #4 08-01-2005, 03:18 PM

Your check raise on the flop is a little too large for my liking, but after he 3-bets, you are definitely correct to get your money in.

If you lost to a river boat or a bigger flopped flush, so be it. nh

-Skeme- · #5 08-01-2005, 03:27 PM

This better not be a bad beat post.

bkfizz02 · #6 08-01-2005, 03:32 PM

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This better not be a bad beat post.

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No, I'm trying to figure out if my thinking is correct on the flop.
1) I think I'm ahead
2) I don't know what's going to hurt me
3) He is aggressive post flop
4) I c/r him and if he bites we get it all in

Please critique this line of thinking. Thanks.

Mackerel · #7 08-01-2005, 03:53 PM

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No, I'm trying to figure out if my thinking is correct on the flop.
1) I think I'm ahead
2) I don't know what's going to hurt me
3) He is aggressive post flop
4) I c/r him and if he bites we get it all in

Please critique this line of thinking. Thanks.

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The only one I really have an issue with is #4. You are giving him an opportunity to get away from his hand cheap with something like AhKh. With the villains stack size here, I like leading into an aggro opponent and then 3-betting him all-in.

Soul Daddy · #8 08-01-2005, 03:56 PM

The A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is on the board. If you don't think he's raising w/ KQs, he doesn't have the flush. Getting the money in is obviously correct.

The c/r is fine if you're pretty sure he's gonna take a shot at it on the flop.

bkfizz02 · #9 08-01-2005, 09:58 PM

Ok, so after thinking about it some more, I feel the correct thing to do is bet into him here. Since I've ruled out a better made flush, I would like to get the chips in the middle now, so my goal should be to figure out the best way to do it:

i bet pot, he raises pot, I push seems like the best line. Given that he did in fact re-raise my check-raise, he'd probably also have called my 3-bet all in.

He turned over A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for the nut flush draw and TPTK which turned into a set on the river. In retrospect, he should have figured he was behind a made flush/set at this point and just called my reraise and seen what develops (or folded). Then I would have had trouble if the board paired, because I might have been deep enough to fold to "his boat". I think by checkraising I gave him the chance to (a) fold or (b) call and see the turn without being pot committed.

Next time, I'll lead into him on the flop and count on his aggressive nature to get me a chance to 3 bet all in. Thanks for the comments.