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Old 07-30-2005, 06:10 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

A fairly clear fold here, yes?

***** Hand History for Game 2450265957 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14398169 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Saturday, July 30, 17:58:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 12122 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: ReeLMunsoN ( $790 )
Seat 2: DrGrimes ( $940 )
Seat 3: samirm ( $790 )
Seat 8: sushi_ ( $1000 )
Seat 10: WagmaN404 ( $1000 )
Seat 9: xyrophobic ( $1630 )
Seat 7: RekaSyka7 ( $985 )
Seat 6: puzzlearm ( $585 )
Seat 5: leaklessphis ( $975 )
Seat 4: MOB_Guy ( $1305 )
Trny:14398169 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Kd Ks ]
xyrophobic raises [75].
WagmaN404 calls [75].
ReeLMunsoN folds.
DrGrimes folds.
samirm folds.
MOB_Guy folds.
leaklessphis folds.
puzzlearm folds.
RekaSyka7 folds.
sushi_ folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Tc, Jh ]
xyrophobic bets [100].
WagmaN404 calls [100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3h ]
xyrophobic bets [350].
WagmaN404 is all-In [825]
xyrophobic???
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:15 PM
YourFoxyGrandma YourFoxyGrandma is offline
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

I can't make this fold.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:21 PM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

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A fairly clear fold here, yes?

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Depends what you mean...

If by 'fairly clear' you meant 'reasonable', and by 'A' you meant 'It's', and by 'fold here' you meant 'to eat Oreos if you've eaten only half your dinner' then absolutely not.

If you meant it literally, it's not as easy. I would call with those pot odds and without a great read.

It's certainly not a 'clear fold' and you shouldn't have puked on the flop, especially since it probably threw off your game and made you overbet the turn.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

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I can't make this fold.

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Put him on a range. What hands play like this?
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:26 PM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

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I can't make this fold.

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Put him on a range. What hands play like this?

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If he's a very competent player, he probably has TT+, which beats you besides QQ. He could have the straight and flush draw with KQs, but that's unlikely.

Many players aren't very competent however. AJ is a very likely possibility. I think likely enough to make your call worth while.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

You see AJ or QQ often enough to call the turn given the size of the pot.

This spot is very tough to get away from out of position.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

if a fairly clear fold means get your chips in the center as quick as possible, then yes, this is a fairly clear fold.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

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if a fairly clear fold means get your chips in the center as quick as possible, then yes, this is a fairly clear fold.

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I sorta did that first. But different.
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

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if a fairly clear fold means get your chips in the center as quick as possible, then yes, this is a fairly clear fold.

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It's not really this clear, is it?
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Old 07-30-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: $55 - KK UTG, one caller and a J-high flop. Puke.

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if a fairly clear fold means get your chips in the center as quick as possible, then yes, this is a fairly clear fold.

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It's not really this clear, is it?

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yes, it is this clear. in sngs your stack is too shallow to worry about two pair/sets etc.
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