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07-30-2005, 01:26 AM
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What would you do?
I'm not going to do the play along thing, because my access and posting times are sporadic, and I'm probably going to bed soon... but here's a hand I just played and ... well, what would you do?
SB is tight pre-flop but very passive. He's been losing chips for 43 hands. Only hand I've been HU with him has been a hand where he had QQ and bet out on a 895 flop. Only other hand I've seen him show down is JJ, so he knows where the fold button is. Hero is UTG with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero calls, 3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks. Flop (4SB): 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB bets, BB folds, Hero.... What would you do? 
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#3
07-30-2005, 01:40 AM
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Re: What would you do?
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how much do the KK when an A flops vs JJ when an A flops examples apply in this situation (From SSHE)? [/ QUOTE ] Semi- to not-at-all, I think. This is a second-pair question, to be sure. But when the possible top-pair is an ace it changes the situation considerable. A lot of bad players will call with any ace. That isn't as true with a jack. The limit was 1/2, btw. KO
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07-30-2005, 01:40 AM
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Re: What would you do?
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I'm not going to do the play along thing, because my access and posting times are sporadic, and I'm probably going to bed soon... but here's a hand I just played and ... well, what would you do? SB is tight pre-flop but very passive. He's been losing chips for 43 hands. Only hand I've been HU with him has been a hand where he had QQ and bet out on a 895 flop. Only other hand I've seen him show down is JJ, so he knows where the fold button is. Hero is UTG with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero calls, 3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks. Flop (4SB): 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB bets, BB folds, Hero.... What would you do? [/ QUOTE ] Since you didn't raise preflop, I'm leaning towards a muck. The pot isn't the right size to try to start a fight with tight SB. If you raised preflop, I think I raise to drive out MP2 because now the pot is twice as big and it's worth putting up a little more of a fight for it. If he 3-bets, I fold. If he calls I bet the turn and take a free showdown, expecting to lose fairly often.
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#5
07-30-2005, 01:43 AM
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Re: What would you do?
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Since you didn't raise preflop, I'm leaning towards a muck. The pot isn't the right size to try to start a fight with tight SB. If you raised preflop, I think I raise to drive out MP2 because now the pot is twice as big and it's worth putting up a little more of a fight for it. If he 3-bets, I fold. If he calls I bet the turn and take a free showdown, expecting to lose fairly often. [/ QUOTE ] Would you raise 77 UTG pre-flop? Really? KO
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#6
07-30-2005, 01:48 AM
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Re: What would you do?
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[ QUOTE ] Since you didn't raise preflop, I'm leaning towards a muck. The pot isn't the right size to try to start a fight with tight SB. If you raised preflop, I think I raise to drive out MP2 because now the pot is twice as big and it's worth putting up a little more of a fight for it. If he 3-bets, I fold. If he calls I bet the turn and take a free showdown, expecting to lose fairly often. [/ QUOTE ] Would you raise 77 UTG pre-flop? Really? KO [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I would. Playing 5-max makes you want to raise lots of things preflop. I also didn't count the number of players in the hand. If you're getting only one limper behind you on a regular basis, opening with 77 isn't so bad.
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#7
07-30-2005, 01:51 AM
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Re: What would you do?
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SB is tight pre-flop but very passive. He's been losing chips for 43 hands. Only hand I've been HU with him has been a hand where he had QQ and bet out on a 895 flop. Only other hand I've seen him show down is JJ, so he knows where the fold button is. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is enough for me to jettison my hand.
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#8
07-30-2005, 01:51 AM
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Re: What would you do?
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I'm not sure I would. Playing 5-max makes you want to raise lots of things preflop. I also didn't count the number of players in the hand. If you're getting only one limper behind you on a regular basis, opening with 77 isn't so bad. [/ QUOTE ] I should have said that. Gosh I hate having no converter. It was 9-max, 9 players. Table was about 35% VPIP. Maybe 8% pfr at the time. The table varied though... I raised a KK earlier and stole the blinds and the hand after it 7 people saw the flop. KO
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#9
07-30-2005, 01:54 AM
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Re: What would you do?
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I would. Playing 5-max makes you want to raise lots of things preflop. I also didn't count the number of players in the hand. If you're getting only one limper behind you on a regular basis, opening with 77 isn't so bad. [/ QUOTE ] I should have said that. Gosh I hate having no converter. It was 9-max, 9 players. Table was about 35% VPIP. Maybe 8% pfr at the time. [/ QUOTE ] I get a little annoyed when posters don't read the OP very carefully. But not paying attention to the number of players at the table counts as not reading very carefully. I'm such a hypocrite. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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