When you do not want overcalls - River play

Just_Like_on_TV · #1 07-29-2005, 02:24 AM

I'm just seeing if I can get any input on if I applied this concept correctly. This is from SSHE river play part when you don't want overcalls.

UTG is 75/5/.5 after 60 hands and MP3 is 32/1/.6 after about 80 hands. I didn't have much of a read on these two, other than the normal call-station way of playing. I had been making really good reads at the table so far, so that's why I made the play I did. Any comments on the very passive checks on the flop/turn are welcome as well, but I figured they weren't gonna fold, and that wasn't exactly a good flop...anyways. The raise on the river was due to me thinking I had a good chance of having the bettor beaten, with no real clue what UTG would have done with facing one bet. Due to no strength shown post-flop, I figured this was worth a try.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 4 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG 3-bets, MP3 calls, Hero caps, SB folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, UTG folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd Ah (two pair, tens and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.50 BB.

MrStretchie · #2 07-29-2005, 02:58 AM

River play is alright when you get to that point, but why not just take it down on the turn?

MrEngenic · #3 07-29-2005, 05:22 AM

Why did you check flop and turn? A turn bet will probably pick up this pot and if they call u can check the river. You probably had the best hand here.

clownshoes · #4 07-29-2005, 06:04 AM

I can see checking the flop but you really need to take a stab at the pot on the turn once they check to you again.

Just_Like_on_TV · #5 07-29-2005, 08:45 PM

I know I shouldn't play this way and I really rarely do, but I had been gunshy about my whole night so far, hence the passive play. I'd definitely take a stab at it in the future. So is the consensus that I should usually take a shot at it on the flop, turn, or both? Just trying to improve my play in these overcard situations. I just figured it may have hit somebody and the way they played they would have called it down, but I'll definitely take stabs at it in the future, as I'd probably get a call from anyone with even 1 high club and would have gotten an extra bet or 2 out of it.