How many of you call this bet?

JC_Saves · #1 07-29-2005, 12:31 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

CO (t900)
Button (t1275)
SB (t2170)
BB (t2825)
UTG (t905)
Hero (t2525)
MP1 (t3695)
MP2 (t545)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, Hero calls t100, 4 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t400) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t200, Hero folds, SB raises to t400, BB folds, UTG calls t200.

Turn: (t1200) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t300, UTG raises to t405, SB calls t105.

If you would have called the flop bet, then how would you have handled 4th street?

I folded because I did not have any spades and also the pot odds were insufficient for me to draw to the gutshot.

TomHimself · #2 07-29-2005, 12:34 AM

you had oesd, i would probaly call. anyone else fold this pf?

DemonDeac · #3 07-29-2005, 12:46 AM

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anyone else fold this pf?

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no. i limp with the occasional raise, depending on how i feel. theyre soooooted. the question is do you muck if its raised behind you.

JC_Saves · #4 07-29-2005, 12:56 AM

I normally fold this hand, but I will occasionally play it to mix up my play a little and this was a pretty passive talble without a lot of raising preflop, and yes, if there was a raise behind me I would muck this in a nanosecond.

Hal 2000 · #5 07-29-2005, 01:35 AM

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anyone else fold this pf?

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no. i limp with the occasional raise, depending on how i feel. theyre soooooted. the question is do you muck if its raised behind you.

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I think you have to muck if it's raised by one of the blinds; AT, even suited, is not a hand you want to get in a battle with against another healthy stack. That being said, I fold this preflop.

CardSharpCook · #6 07-29-2005, 01:46 AM

I'm bumping this up PF. However, I'm calling with my 6 clean outs(non-spade K/8), 2 dirty outs(K/8 spade), and 3 very questionable outs (the 3 aces). I can figure out how to deal with the questionable outs if they hit.

In this case, having called the flop bet, I can safely fold the turn, given that the action is all in front of me.

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Jackal · #7 07-29-2005, 02:16 AM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

CO (t900)
Button (t1275)
SB (t2170)
BB (t2825)
UTG (t905)
Hero (t2525)
MP1 (t3695)
MP2 (t545)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, Hero calls t100, 4 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t400) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t200, Hero folds, SB raises to t400, BB folds, UTG calls t200.

Turn: (t1200) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t300, UTG raises to t405, SB calls t105.

If you would have called the flop bet, then how would you have handled 4th street?

I folded because I did not have any spades and also the pot odds were insufficient for me to draw to the gutshot.

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You had an open-ended straight draw, not a gutshot.

JC_Saves · #8 07-29-2005, 08:06 PM

I was referring to the nut straight, which obviously be the one I want to hit. I was looking at 8 outs, but with the flush there I had to discount those.

I folded because the pot just was not laying enough for me to call, and plus there was yet one more person to act behind me that I could not know what he was going to do.