Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Tournament Poker > One-table Tournaments
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-28-2005, 09:53 AM
Raiser Raiser is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: The Tundra
Posts: 178
Default AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

I'm 90% sure this is an easy push, but I want to make sure as my bubble play is pretty weak.

Here were my thoughts when I played this hand. Please let me know if they are good thoughts or bad thoughts and any other things I should have considered before I made my decision.

1) I know button will almost certainly call my push, but he has a lot of chips and could be raising a lot of hands here so AQ has a very good shot of being ahead.
2) I'm not even close to guaranteed to make the money, so what I gain in doubling up far exceeds the loss I'd take if I bust.
3) A stop-n-go was considered, but I decided that my hand was good enough that I don't really mind if he calls. I'm likely at worst a coin flip, but stand a good chance of dominating him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1090)</font>
UTG (t911)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t4889)</font>
SB (t1110)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1090 (All-In)</font>
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:18 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 30 + rake
Posts: 892
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

clear push given your stack size relative to the blinds.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:25 AM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 84
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

These are all good thoughts, though I don't even consider the stop n go. I see AQo in this spot, my eyes light up and the letters P-U-S-H force every other coherent thought out of my brain. AQo is just that good in this spot.

You should be 100% sure it's a good push.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:31 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

Clear, easy push. This is what we mean when we say play for first and not 3rd (and why the ideal finish distribution has as many 4ths as 1sts with fewer 2nds and 3rds).
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:31 AM
ChuckNorris ChuckNorris is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 54
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

Now this would be the purrfect place for a stop'n'go. I think you want them to fold even hands you dominate, not to mention KT and some others. Winning this without a showdown would really be great with these stack sizes.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:34 AM
tigerite tigerite is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 360
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

I don't like the stop and go with a hand as strong as AQ.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:37 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 30 + rake
Posts: 892
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

[ QUOTE ]
I don't like the stop and go with a hand as strong as AQ.

[/ QUOTE ]

For this reason and the fact that a push on the flop will likely offer 2:5:1 and not endanger villan's stack
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:45 AM
ChuckNorris ChuckNorris is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 54
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I don't like the stop and go with a hand as strong as AQ.

[/ QUOTE ]



For this reason and the fact that a push on the flop will likely offer 2:5:1 and not endanger villan's stack

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly because of these huge odds you do everything you can to try to make villain fold. Because they have odds to call your push preflop even with anytwo, you should push the flop, where it's not as unlikely for them to fold. What's so difficult to understand about this? What do we loose by doing the stop'n'go?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-28-2005, 10:54 AM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 93
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

deciding on push vs stop-n-go is based on FE, not cards...do u think u'll have more FE pushing or stop-n-going

if u push or s-n-g here, he has the same odds for calling

so maybe a missed flop will cause him to fold, making an s-n-g good here

or, maybe he's a good big stack so he's raising pretty much any 2 to get u guys to fold since 3 even stacks on bubble...and if he doesn't wanna get caught with rags he may fold here

most likely neither option has much, if any, fe...but it's a judgement call (and based on read of opp as well) about which has more fe

does he raise every hand?
has he ever folded to a reraise?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-28-2005, 11:25 AM
morgan180 morgan180 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: wildly chasing WPT qualifiers
Posts: 212
Default Re: AQ facing raise from big stack on bubble (Party $11)

i don't think a stop-n-go is the right play here - your go will be roughly the size of the pot and the odds you're laying the chip leader will be almost irresistable to him. its a clear push here.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.