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Old 07-28-2005, 01:19 AM
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Default Odds of flopping 2 pair or trips?

lvl 3, i was sb with 27o. there were 6 limpers [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img], so i was getting 15:1 to call.

flop missed me, so i check/fold. (but even if i got top pair, i would have check/folded to 1/2pot or better bet.)

just wondering if my call was correct?

What are the odds of getting 2pair or better on the flop if u have 27o?
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Old 07-28-2005, 03:15 AM
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Default Re: Odds of flopping 2 pair or trips?

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lvl 3, i was sb with 27o. there were 6 limpers [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img], so i was getting 15:1 to call.

flop missed me, so i check/fold. (but even if i got top pair, i would have check/folded to 1/2pot or better bet.)

just wondering if my call was correct?

What are the odds of getting 2pair or better on the flop if u have 27o?

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I'm trying to understand why people can't use the search function, so I searched for 2-pair in the last month and got this on my first try (violating the rules for searching all forums at once, but hey, it's 2:14 AM). Look about half way down.

search function output
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Odds of flopping 2 pair or trips?

"2-pair or trips is mutually exclusive of a straight, straight draw, flush, or flush draw, so you can just add these together as needed:

2-pair or trips: 3.47% or 5.71% if you include 2-pair with a pair on the flop or three-of-a-kind on the flop.

8-out straight draw or 9-out flush draw: 19.1%. Follow the links in that post to get to this number, and some other good stuff.

8-out str8 draw: 9.6%

9-out flush draw: C(11,2)*39/C(50,3) = 10.94%

straight: (4*4^3-4)/C(50,3) = 1.29%

flush: [C(11,3)-4]/C(50,3) = 0.82%

straight flush: 4/C(50,3) = 0.02% "

How do i convert that to x:1 format?
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: Odds of flopping 2 pair or trips?

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"2-pair or trips is mutually exclusive of a straight, straight draw, flush, or flush draw, so you can just add these together as needed:

2-pair or trips: 3.47% or 5.71% if you include 2-pair with a pair on the flop or three-of-a-kind on the flop.

8-out straight draw or 9-out flush draw: 19.1%. Follow the links in that post to get to this number, and some other good stuff.

8-out str8 draw: 9.6%

9-out flush draw: C(11,2)*39/C(50,3) = 10.94%

straight: (4*4^3-4)/C(50,3) = 1.29%

flush: [C(11,3)-4]/C(50,3) = 0.82%

straight flush: 4/C(50,3) = 0.02% "

How do i convert that to x:1 format?

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For example, 3.47% = 1/0.0347 - 1 = 27.8:1.
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Odds of flopping 2 pair or trips?

oh man.. so even with 15:1 odds, it's incorrect to call with 27o when everyone has >10BB stacks? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

what do you mean "5.71% if you include 2-pair with a pair on the flop or three-of-a-kind on the flop"

isnt a pair on the flop = trips?
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Odds of flopping 2 pair or trips?

it is written in most good poker books as 28 to 1 for 2 pair or better with any non pair. that is the number to remember. you might say your implied odds....but toss it, the hand sucks, and you could flop 2 7's and lose to a full house or A7.

the real answer is you are not receiving the correct odds.
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