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Old 07-27-2005, 06:06 AM
Taraz Taraz is offline
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Default The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

(Disclaimer: Skip to the second paragraph unless you wanna read my whining)

This is demoralizing. I started out at the $6s and $11s close to a year ago and I've since moved up to the $22s and the $33s. I have had pretty decent success at every level although my sample is still ridiculously small, but every time I try to take a stab at the $55s I lose. It's getting rather sad now. I win a few $33s and I say, "Why don't I try one of these $55s out, people say the play isn't that much better." I play a couple, lose, and say "nuts to that" and move back down. I've finished OOTM 18 out of 22 tourneys and every single ITM finish was a third place. I realize 22 sng's is nothing and all of you 8-tablers out there have 14 buy-in downswings in 30 minutes, but I don't like seeing my bankroll take hits like that.

Now to my actual question: Are there any real and tangible adjustments that need to be made to play the $55s? I've been keeping my eye out and searching for what to do with those extra chips, but I'm not coming up with anything substantial. Everything I find just says that it's easier when you raise in level 1 and 2 and miss the flop because you have more chips left over and that the players are slightly better.

I still can't play suited connectors early, right? Should I just "play my game"? Maybe I'm overanalyzing my miniscule sample cause I'm mad and it's late, but I can't deal with losing (it's a little problem I have). Thanks in advance to everyone who replies . . .
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Old 07-27-2005, 07:24 AM
SammyKid11 SammyKid11 is offline
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

4-18 just isn't that bad, doesn't say anything about whether or not you're ready to play at a certain level. What does say something about it as that you're so upset about going 4-18...and the fact that you're haphazardly "stabbing" at the 55's. If you're beating the 33's consistently (over a sample set of at least 500) AND you have the bankroll for 55's, then give it a real shot - play 100 or so consistently. Then take stock of where you are.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:49 PM
MegaBet MegaBet is offline
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

The 55s are not impossible. I have a 42% ITM and 30% ROI there. I suggest you stay on the 33s until you feel real confident. Its hard to help you here without specific examples (maybe post a HH?).

Although I could be really selfish and suggest you stay there [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] but I won't.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

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I have a 42% ITM and 30% ROI there

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jesus.

how many tourneys?
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

i suggest single tabling...at least until you get a hang of where to put pressure on the table
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:57 PM
MegaBet MegaBet is offline
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I have a 42% ITM and 30% ROI there

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jesus.

how many tourneys?

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Not a lot...400 or so.
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:00 PM
ChoicestHops ChoicestHops is offline
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

22 tournies: you already know the answer.

Whats the point of this post?
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:05 PM
The once and future king The once and future king is offline
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

Hope you can handle the downswing headed your way.
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

Given this:

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I realize 22 sng's is nothing and all of you 8-tablers out there have 14 buy-in downswings in 30 minutes, but I don't like seeing my bankroll take hits like that.

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but I can't deal with losing (it's a little problem I have).

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Why don't you just stick to the 33s where you are comfortable and successful? I mean, it's just poker. If it bothers you this much, is it really worth it? There isn't a law that says you have to keep moving up.

I don't mean that as in insult at all, I just mean play poker to make some money and increase your happiness. If the 55s are detracting from your happiness or peace of mind, just stay away from them.
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:11 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: The $55s are impossible (sorta long)

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I have a 42% ITM and 30% ROI there

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jesus.

how many tourneys?

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Not a lot...400 or so.

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That's nothing. I have a 127.3% ROI and a 75% ITM at the 55's, and my sample size is way smaller than 400, so I win.

Really, you just have to play a little more poker and a little less statistically-driven card-bingo than at the 33's, all because of the extra 200 chips. Other than having to play Levels 3 and 4 in a 55 like Level 3 in a 33, there's not much difference.
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