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Old 07-26-2005, 02:41 PM
wpzone wpzone is offline
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Default Reviewing Hands (88 in CO 7 handed)

Im going back and reviewing hands for the last 2 weeks and this one came up, just looking for opinions. I think its pretty standard until the river.

This was from 2 weeks ago so I dont remember reads [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]....gotta start taking better notes
SB is 71/12/1.4 only 32 hands, MP2 is
65/6/.7 32 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

SB 3-bet, high suited broadway or 99-AA.
MP2 limp then call 2 cold....smallish PP 44-77 maybe, high suited broadway?

Flop: (13 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Standard, SB 3 betting pf, leading and capping flop, I have him on an over pair.

MP2 raise leads me to thing 55 or 77 now, still possible JTd or QJd, I think he would have raised anything larger pf.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

I think MP2 has to have 55 or 77 to donk here. I think SB is afraid of the sets now and is calling down.
The only thing beating me here is 46 or 69, which I just dont see these guys having. I should have capped here, not sure why I didnt. I may have been waiting for a non-diamond, non-broadway to raise the river...should have capped though.

River: (21.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero???

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Old 07-26-2005, 02:45 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, that turn card is a blank. You've got top set so I'm capping the turn, especially since it appears as if SB will call another two cold to pad the pot further. Yuck on the river. I think I'd put in a raise and call a 3-bet. With the PF and flop action, I don't put SB on the diamond flush. If he sucked out on the river with QQ, lucky him.
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:46 PM
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Why can't MP2 have a straight?
Call the river. SB isn't value-betting out of fear his overpair will get checked thru, if ya know what I mean.
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:47 PM
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No way am I folding this. I'd just call and get hit in the face with diamonds.
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:49 PM
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I'd call this river, cuz if SB is betting the flush, which is a possibility, it's very likely the nut flush, so he won't be afraid of reraising you...
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:49 PM
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You really think MP2 has 46 or 69 suited and open limped/cced pf?

It does appear the SB just woke back up on the Qd for flush or set.
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:52 PM
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With the PF and flop action, I don't put SB on the diamond flush

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Thats exactly what I put sb on...I'm pretty sure he'd lead the turn with QQ
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: Reviewing Hands (88 in CO 7 handed)

SB has the flush given the turn check (QQ bets the turn)
MP2 has a lower set.

MP2 could have a straight quite easily. 96s/64s is not a fold in a 65 VPIP'ers book. what tells me MP2 does not have a straight is the fact that OP questions the river call (easy call) and yet thinks the turn is an easy cap in hindsight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

that's my read.

your PF ranges for your opponents is too narrow.
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:58 PM
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MP2 could have a straight quite easily. 96s/64s is not a fold in a 65 VPIP'ers book. what tells me MP2 does not have a straight is the fact that OP questions the river call (easy call) and yet thinks the turn is an easy cap in hindsight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
that's my read.


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Old 07-26-2005, 02:59 PM
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SBs stats are amazingly LAG. It's very tough to put him on anything since it appears he bets near anything. A 1.4 AF is easy to maintain when you play 17% of your hands, but this guy plays 71% of them. He could have diamonds, QQ, or even a hand like AQ/KQ that he figures is good now that a Q fell. With his LAGish stats, it's not too hard to believe he'd cap a flop with nothing but overcards.
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