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Old 07-26-2005, 07:07 AM
pottie pottie is offline
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Default Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t2235)
MP3 (t4235)
CO (t2190)
Button (t4575)
SB (t1025)
Hero (t2340)
UTG (t2665)
UTG+1 (t3025)
MP1 (t3990)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ??? No reads...
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Old 07-26-2005, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

it's a button raise, I push. he'll lay it down a large percentage of the time.
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Old 07-26-2005, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

It's still early, I call and play the hand out. Pushing has some folding equity, but if he calls you, you are at best in a coinflip most of the time. With no reads, I assume strong until proven otherwise, pushing seems a bit too reckless.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

And the final verdict is...
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

Easy push. The chance button has a bigger pair are small. Get him to fold or call with you the favorite plus pot odds. You also want to discourage people from stealing your blind.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

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It's still early, I call and play the hand out. Pushing has some folding equity, but if he calls you, you are at best in a coinflip most of the time. With no reads, I assume strong until proven otherwise, pushing seems a bit too reckless.

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I call too, then bet the flop into him most of the time. Pushing really isn't neccessary here, especially so early in the tournament. You've got a big enough stack that you can walk away from this without worrying.

I think a lot of players will call you w/ two overcards, and I just don't see a reason to put it all on a coinflip given your stack, and that point in the tournament.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

With your particular stack size I call and play poker. 1500 and below I push, and over 5000 I pop it to 900-1000.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Big Blind 99 against button raise - Help?

Pushing is excessive here with 23 bb. You will only get called by a better hand and will likely be a 4:1 dog. Either raise to 900 or smoothcall depending on how aggressive the button is.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:33 PM
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I think a lot of players will call you w/ two overcards, and I just don't see a reason to put it all on a coinflip given your stack, and that point in the tournament.

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It's not a coinflip. You are ahead like 57-43 against AKo-ATo. It's about even against JTs or QJs. You also have pot odds and folding equity. If you call, you are out of position postflop.

Also you might get called by a lower pair, a medium suited connector, or Ax where you are a big favorite. You will also frequently get villain to fold hands like these and worse junk hands he was stealing with.

Don't be weak/tight.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:40 PM
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I think a lot of players will call you w/ two overcards, and I just don't see a reason to put it all on a coinflip given your stack, and that point in the tournament.

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It's not a coinflip. You are ahead like 57-43 against AKo-ATo. It's about even against JTs or QJs. You also have pot odds and folding equity. If you call, you are out of position postflop.

Also you might get called by a lower pair, a medium suited connector, or Ax where you are a big favorite. You will also frequently get villain to fold hands like these and worse junk hands he was stealing with.

Don't be weak/tight.

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I just think calling PF and betting pretty much any flop is the better move, I'm not really being weak/tight. Say hero 2/3 bets the flop and villian comes back all in, you can easily fold. But in my experiance, often enough the flop bet is basically a resteal, without putting all your chips at risk.

What if the flop comes 258? This allows hero to check/raise the flop, and extract much more than if villian had just folded PF. I don't like going all in when I really don't need to PF, and like I said a lot of donks will call w/ just two overcards (especially since villian has a pretty big stack). Even if that's EV, this isn't limit, you don't need that pot to win and you have plenty of time.
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