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View Poll Results: Counter or Taker?.
I count outs on every hand and double check before I click my action. I don't mind almost timing out. 16 7.96%
I just RAISE or FOLD. Why count?. 19 9.45%
What is an out?. 11 5.47%
It's all intuitive and automatic now. 83 41.29%
I count ocassionally on multiway pots. 72 35.82%
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:16 PM
Sooga Sooga is offline
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Default Is this unethical?

I love going to batting cages. It's a good way to get some stress out, and get a little bit of exercise while I'm at it.

What I do not enjoy is buying the tokens for $2.50 each to buy me only 25 pitches.

So I went onto ebay and found a bag of 75 of the same-size batting tokens available for $32 including shipping. While I wasn't sure if these would work at the batting cage, I figured it was worth the gamble. So I bought them.

And not only did they work, but by sheer luck, the branding on the coins I got is identical to the branding of a 'real' token.

My co-workers seemed to be split on the issue. About half of them thought this was flat-out stealing, another half thought that if extra tokens were so easy to obtain, then I'd be a fool to not get them and try to use them. What say you?
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

Of course it's stealling. You're receiving the service/product without paying the company that's providing it. In fact, you're paying $0 to that company.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

its iffy, but i would def do it cuz im an ass
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:19 PM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

2.5 for 25 pitches.

that is so expensive.

just pay for 1/10 of your pitches. that is fair in my book.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

Not sure if this is relevant, but I should have stated in my original post that I'd gone to this cage and legitimately bought many, many tokens, before it occurred to me to try ebay. Is there a certain number of legit tokens I would need to buy for use of these 'cheaper' tokens to be not as bad? Or perhaps I just think like a criminal too much.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

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its iffy, but i would def do it cuz im an ass

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Old 07-24-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

I'm soooo looking for driving range tokens. I have much worse things under my belt that I already plan on burning in hell for, this is childs play.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

It's clearly theft. I might do it.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:33 PM
BigBaitsim (milo) BigBaitsim (milo) is offline
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Default Re: Is this unethical?

This is clearly theft.

Essentially it is counterfeiting, and it would be no different than using fake lookalike red chips at the Mirage.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:35 PM
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It's clearly theft regardless of motivation. You only need to figure out whether you can justify your stealing to yourself and/or kids.
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