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Old 07-24-2005, 04:17 AM
golfcchs golfcchs is offline
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20+2 big blind to 150

Hero 1200
UTG+1 1850
Button 660
SB 1500
BB 160

Hero dealt KQo
Do I push this? Everyone is pretty standard for a 22 except button may call with any ace and some hands that are worse then mine.
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:25 AM
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Common guys I really need your input. I have been running really bad last few days and need to know if this could be one of my leaks.
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: Do I push this?

You get called by any ace, any pair, any two face cards at the 22s. So it's not really a good push at all.

If the table has been somewhat tight, like you think they won't call without a pretty solid hand, then pushing is okay. But in general it'll be trouble for you.
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:37 AM
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How low do I let my stack go before I push here? Also how big of an ace do I need to push here? Thanks alot for you input.
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:00 AM
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i think i push here
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: Do I push this?

I like folding here.

Pushing is not so amazing IMO.

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Old 07-24-2005, 05:19 AM
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Okay so I think pushing KQ here was the wrong play, but what hands can I push from this position?
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: Do I push this?

[ QUOTE ]
20+2 big blind to 150

Hero 1200
UTG+1 1850
Button 660
SB 1500
BB 160

Hero dealt KQo


[/ QUOTE ]

You can survive a loss to the two tiny stacks. You can not survive a loss to the two bigger-than-you stacks. How have the big stacks been playing ? If you get in there all-in first will they have the sense to get away. Are they putting pressure on the little guy ? Chances are that there is an Ace in play.

I dunno I think it is close but I like pushing here.

Aggression on the bubble and near bubble seems to be a leak of mine so take that advice cautiously.

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Old 07-24-2005, 05:39 AM
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You can survive a loss to the two tiny stacks.

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It's not a matter of surviving a loss to the tiny stacks. If the 2nd lowest stack beats us here, we've traded places with him. Make the low stacks make moves here, don't take an unnecessary risk by pushing this UTG. Use your chips to your advantage by being patient here. Plus you have to look at the game situation - adding 225 to your stack is not going to change the fact that you are solidly in 3rd and there are two shortstacks. What will change this dynamic is you losing this hand if you push.

I fold.
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:45 AM
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Definite fold, this isnt even close. First of all you have no fold equity on the BB...that almost always hurts your EV when your hand isnt that strong. Second of all your hand just isnt that good. You have 8x the BB 2 off the button. This is a clearcut fold.

Of course the hand also makes no sense as it seems there arent 8000 chips in play, so I have no idea whats going on here. Surprised that so many people gave responses considering the fact that the numbers are all screwy. Either way I almost never just open push KQo 2 off the button with 8x the BB.
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