Representing 2

[Schneids]

$150/300 6-handed.

I raise 4c 4s UTG. If you hate it I don't care it's what I did lets move on pretend like it's the CO though me being UTG will become more relevent later in the hand.

Folded around to SB who 3-bets. He's a very solid, tight playing player who's a big winner. Today he happens to be running poorly. BB cold calls and he's the reason we're all in the game. I call.

Flop Kh 8d 5s. SB bets, BB folds, I call.

Turn Ac. SB bets, I raise, SB calls.

River Jc. SB checks, I bet.

[flawless_victory]

i know what youre thinking, and i cannot possibly be convinced that calling this flop is good. fold the flop and let him have it you psycho.

[astroglide]

are his LAYDOWNS the reason you're in the game?

[Klepton]

i think if he hated that Ace he would have folded to the turn raise...

but this could be like my 100-200 hand where villain wanted to see if you would bet the river and were not raising for free showdown

FWIW, i like it

[ike]

I don't understand. Do you think 99-QQ called the turn raise but will now fold?

[flawless_victory]

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I don't understand. Do you think 99-QQ called the turn raise but will now fold?

[/ QUOTE ]pretty obvious he does.

[Xhiggy]

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but this could be like my 100-200 hand where villain wanted to see if you would bet the river and were not raising for free showdown

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I agree. I think once you decide to play past the flop, you have a lot of fold equity in the turn raise (although I'm not sure of the overall EV in continuing past the flop). I think a river bet is a must, as he now knows you weren't raising to take a free showdown. I'm a little concerned SB might have a hand like A10 or AJ (I think AQ+ 3bets you on the turn), but there's more than enough of a chance of villain folding a middle pair or KQ, etc. here to justify the bet.

[A_C_Slater]

Do they perceive you to be a rock or the maniac that you are?

This is very important.

[elindauer]

Hi Schneids,

edit: total 180.

After some further thought, I realized that QQ and TT may well call the turn raise drawing to their 6 outs. Both of these hands will probably fold to your river bet. I think we should discount these some because these hands probably don't bet out on the turn, but still, you have a pretty good overlay on a river bluff. Fire.

As for your decision to play this hand at all, and to take this shot, obviously, it's not the play you make by default. The thing that distinguishes a TAG from a LAG though is simply the FREQUENCY of plays like this. If you pick your spots, you can use your tight image to get away with this stuff sometimes.

Good luck.
Eric

[elindauer]

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I don't understand. Do you think 99-QQ called the turn raise but will now fold?

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Hi Ike,

I thought the same thing, and while 99 is clearly out, QQ and TT both have a gutshot + what look like reasonably clean set outs. They probably call the turn and fold the river.

Good luck.
Eric