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Old 07-22-2005, 12:42 PM
Robb Robb is offline
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Default QJs: Probably against one of you chaps

Villain is very solid, TA, a touch tricky. UTG is ok, straight forward - I could be in trouble to a KQ/KJ. Haven't seen enough of him to know what his limping standards are though.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $30.
UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (24 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

That's not what I wanted. I didn't think I would lose everybody.

Turn: (16.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

I think preflop, flop and river are debatable. For some reason, I wasn't thinking river check-raise prior to the river. Because I played the hand so oddly, especially the flop....there's a chance villain could have frozen up with an overpair on the river but the more I think about it a river bet by villain is pretty certain.
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Old 07-22-2005, 01:43 PM
sam h sam h is offline
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Default Re: QJs: Probably against one of you chaps

I hate the preflop 3-bet, especially if you think UTG is likely to have you dominated or share your cards. Three-betting the flop looks fine, as you have a good draw and people are likely to have one-pair or gutshot type hands and won't fold those. Looks like an easy river checkraise.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:07 PM
MrStretchie MrStretchie is offline
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Default Re: QJs: Probably against one of you chaps

I don't find the pf 3-bet terrible, but I don't like it. The flop raise is clear, the results unfortunate.
Against most players I'd definitely go for a river checkraise, especially the way he's been playing the hand.
However, if this guy is really as good as you say, I'm thinking there's a good chance he can see that you very likely just made your hand and will check behind. I like the river bet.
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