Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:06 PM
ShortySaurus ShortySaurus is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 96
Default is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

im UTG+1 with AK no reads. UTG raises, Hero 3 bets, SB caps. We all call.

Flop:
T J Q rainbow

SB bets, UTG only has 60 bucks left so he raises, I 3 bet. SB caps.

Turn Brick
We cap turn

River J
SB checks, I check....

easy value bet???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:09 PM
highlife highlife is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 294
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

yeah, it looks like an overplayed AA or KK here.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:14 PM
bobdibble bobdibble is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: The Muck
Posts: 86
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

You need a read on SB to know what to do here.

My default play is to check/call. If SB is sane, you are chopping or SB just filled up.

If SB is a LAG and could be overplaying AA, KK, AQ, or KQ, then I bet/call.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:15 PM
ike ike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 191
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

[ QUOTE ]

yeah, it looks like an overplayed AA or KK here.

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree, I think you're chopping a whole lot of the time but out of the rest I think he has QQ at least as much as he has AA or KK and you're losing 2 bets to QQ and making 1 off of AA and KK so I like the check. Its not like anyone's hand is disguised here, sb would have to be really out of control to go 4 bets with AA or KK on the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:18 PM
highlife highlife is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 294
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

yeah, it looks like an overplayed AA or KK here.

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree, I think you're chopping a whole lot of the time but out of the rest I think he has QQ at least as much as he has AA or KK and you're losing 2 bets to QQ and making 1 off of AA and KK so I like the check. Its not like anyone's hand is disguised here, sb would have to be really out of control to go 4 bets with AA or KK on the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

why did SB check the river then?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:25 PM
ike ike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 191
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

Either he has AK and he's checkcalling expecting to chop at best or he has QQ and he's checkraising because you put the 4th bet in on the turn and he expects you to fire one more or he has AA or KK and he's checkcalling planning to lose. Checking makes sense with all of his possible holdings.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:27 PM
ShortySaurus ShortySaurus is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 96
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

i highly doubt hes overplaying AA here....perhaps KK but still unlikely....
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:32 PM
highlife highlife is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 294
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

[ QUOTE ]
Either he has AK and he's checkcalling expecting to chop at best or he has QQ and he's checkraising because you put the 4th bet in on the turn and he expects you to fire one more or he has AA or KK and he's checkcalling planning to lose. Checking makes sense with all of his possible holdings.

[/ QUOTE ]

i dont think hero put in the 4th bet on the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:33 PM
geormiet geormiet is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 19
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

I like the check behind. Anyone foolish enough to overplay AA this much will lead the river.

KK is the only hand you beat, otherwise you are either chopping or getting checkraised.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-21-2005, 03:34 PM
ike ike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 191
Default Re: is this a value bet......am i a coward? 30-60

sb capped the flop, assuming he then lead the turn, if it went 4 bets hero put the last one in.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.