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Too passive with QQ?
After Party got it's act together last night, I played this hand. It's simple enough, and since I'm at work I'll just lay out what happened:
PP25 I'm UTG+1 with QQ, I raise to $1, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $4, all fold around to me, I call, UTG+2 calls $2 and is all-in. So at this point, the UTG+2 is all-in and it's a side pot between me and MP1. Flop 832r ($9/$2 side pot) I check, MP1 bets $3, I call. Turn 9 (completes rainbow) I check, MP1 checks. River A I check, MP1 bets $5, I fold. Okay, so I know I'm going to get flamed for playing this hand too passively. And I agree, I should've check-raised flop or led out the turn. The guy who put in the preflop reraise had stats about 45/17 I think, so I knew he probably didn't have a monster. My thinking preflop was to just call the bet and see what happens, although I could have likely been more aggressive knowing the reraiser was pretty loose and reraised a bunch. But I wanted to see the flop first, not a huge leak I think. Anyway, on the flop I figured I'm either way ahead or way behind and since the pot is now heads up, there's no reason to force this LAG's hand. He either has a bigger pair, a smaller pair, or a big ace. I doubt he would reraise my bet in early position so much without a decent hand. At any rate, the board has no draws, so there's no harm in giving a free card. If an A or K comes, that's tough luck, but seeing as I'm a 75/25 favorite here, I'll take those odds and not blast him out of the pot. Plus if I raise, and he reraises, well he might have TT or JJ and get me to lay down the best hand. So my plan to check/call. Unfortunately, the ace hits the river. After I fold, he flips over AK and the guy who went all-in showed AT. So an unlucky beat. I was kind of mad that instead of turning a profit here I lost $7. But looking back, $3 was in the pot with the guy all-in and he would've won that anyway. I lost $4 to the guy with AK, but I think I played it right. I know a more aggressive line would've likely have won me the side pot before the river, but when you know someone is reraising your EP raise and that they must have cards, doesn't my line make a little sense? I don't want to have to push because I know a hand that beats me could very possibly be out there and I also know that a worse hand, like TT or JJ, will likely play this hand the same way as AA or KK seeing as this guy is LAG. Anyway, that's my defense. Flame away. |
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
I lead the turn to protect against a 6 outer and to get value from JJ.
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#3
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
And what if he makes a big raise/pushes?
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
you fold, then again, this is PP25NL, and there are horrible players here...I'd fold to a push though.
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
Fold.
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
i like leading the flop and seeing what happens. if you check-call the flop, you might want consider leading the turn to see what happens (with a non-committing bet)
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
Anyone like a check raise on the flop? I think it helps define your hand.
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone like a check raise on the flop? I think it helps define your hand. [/ QUOTE ] arg! no. why in hell would you want to define your hand? |
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
i dont. maybe with a hand like a super tiny OP, small non set pocket, or something that might win the main pot against the player already all in via isolation
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Re: Too passive with QQ?
Sorry, bad choice of words. If the guy is not going to go along with the check/check/check gig, then why not get your money in while you appear to be ahead? A check raise probably wins you the side pot right there, no?
Am I missing a nuance to playing with one person all in? |
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