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Old 07-19-2005, 09:39 AM
McNeese72 McNeese72 is offline
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Default AK and missed the flop

This hand is one of the weaknesses in my game. I usually don't know whether to give it up after the flop or play it aggressive. What would you guys do?

UTG is an unknown but seems a little loose. UTG+2 is a TAA and MP1 is a SLAP.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds.

River: (9.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

Checking the flop ain't that bad. I don't think I like the turn call with all those draws out.
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

I bet this flop 100% of the time. The pot is huge, you might have the best hand, if not you may have 6 outs. Finally, it can gain you a free card on the turn.
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

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Checking the flop ain't that bad. I don't think I like the turn call with all those draws out.

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Its probably not a bad idea to bet the flop and take the free turn card though.
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

I think you played this ok. A bet on the flop may be good, but might as well take the free card.

I may fold the turn, but a call is not bad, you have 6 outs.

River is fine.
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Old 07-19-2005, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

True.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

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Checking the flop ain't that bad. I don't think I like the turn call with all those draws out.

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Its probably not a bad idea to bet the flop and take the free turn card though.

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Except that with this many people and such a coordinated board, you often won't get a free turn card.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

I'm betting the flop because I think I have the best hand. If I get a bunch of callers I will take a free card on the turn if offered. If I get it HU with the PFR I will bet the turn.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

The way Hero played it, I would fold the turn and I don't think its all that close. Hero doesn't have 6 full outs, as he could be reverse-dominated by one of the limpers and could get in trouble if one of his round-suit outs hits.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: AK and missed the flop

*grunching*

You have at most 6outs(I'd say 4 as an ace or king is a likly holding to these raise callers, CLubs may give a flush).


i'd bet the flop, Check/call the turn UI(if club fold to a bet/raise) , Fold river UI.
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