AJo flops TP.

David04 · #1 07-18-2005, 12:35 AM

Ultimate Bet 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Is this a situation to limp, or is a raise okay?

Flop: (13.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Wow, I have no idea what I was thinking here. Should I bet out or try a C/R?

Turn: (8.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, CO raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Pretty good turn for me. At this point, MP1 is who I am worried about. A check/call on the flop after 3-betting PF. I am glad to see him go. I have no real read on CO, it is very possible that he is on a weak Ace. A flopped straight is possible, but I would expect it to be slowplayed.

River: (12.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

The diamond doesn't worry me too much, I doubt that CO was betting/raising with a flush draw, especially when he could have taken a free card on the flop. So, if I was ahead on the flop/turn I feel like I'm ahead here.

Final Pot: 14.70 BB

Comments are appreciated.

thesharpie · #2 07-18-2005, 12:59 AM

Preflop good. Lead the flop and hope MP1 raises a worse hand.

AngelicPenguin · #3 07-18-2005, 01:03 AM

Grunch

Preflop: Looks fine

Flop: Flop bettor is to your left. I'd bet and hope he forces the field to call 2. Pot is huge, so I need to protect my hand.

Turn/River: WA/WB. I probably check/call the turn and bet the river depending on the action on the flop (ideally I bet, preflop raise raises, and most other players folded.)

eviljeff · #4 07-18-2005, 01:07 AM

I limp with AJ in EP. I think most 2+2ers will tell you to raise. meh.

I bet this flop, hoping that mp1 raises. that's the best way to protect your hand. since you checked and got a bet from late position, you should definitely raise. protect.

turn and river seem fine.

Paxosmotic · #5 07-18-2005, 01:10 AM

Preflop is perfect. If you can put the first raise in holding AJo, you need to do it every time.

Lead the flop. You can't protect your hand with a check/raise because of where the bettor is (on your immediate left), so the best you can do is hope he raises you and faces the field for two cold. This pot is massive, though, so your raise is mostly for value. You have TPGK, you need to maintain the lead in this hand by betting out.

As an aside, with 1 hand on him, I don't get the feeling CO has the foggiest idea what he's doing. I'd put him on something along the lines of A7o.

TheMainEvent · #6 07-18-2005, 01:11 AM

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I limp with AJ in EP. I think most 2+2ers will tell you to raise. meh.

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I think its one of those hands that everyone has an opinion on. For me, AJo in EP my favorite play is to fold, followed by raising, with calling in last place. With AJs, its raising, followed by calling, with folding in last place. Weird, huh?

Hojglad · #7 07-18-2005, 01:15 AM

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I limp with AJ in EP. I think most 2+2ers will tell you to raise. meh.

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I think its one of those hands that everyone has an opinion on. For me, AJo in EP my favorite play is to fold, followed by raising, with calling in last place. With AJs, its raising, followed by calling, with folding in last place. Weird, huh?

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The tighter a table plays, the more inclined I am to raise AJo in early position. That said, there are very few times I limp it, anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rev. Good Will · #8 07-18-2005, 01:19 AM

reads?

I'm raising this PF each and every time here

I'd bet out flop, and hope MP1 raises to thin the field.

what ranges of hands do you put CO on? A read here would really be good, his play confuses me like whoa.

TheMainEvent · #9 07-18-2005, 01:21 AM

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The tighter a table plays, the more inclined I am to raise AJo in early position.

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This seems kind of counterintuitive to me. If the table is tight that means everyone is folding the hands that AJo dominates and calling or 3-betting with the hands that dominate you. Folding seems better to me at a tight table.

Disconnected · #10 07-18-2005, 01:24 AM

You'll probably get different opinions about raising AJ in this spot, but I think it's fine here, especially considering you're playing 8-handed.

I'd lead the flop. If MP1 has a PP (not aces), he's likely to check behind you, and who knows about CO -- he called 3 cold, so nothing he does would surprise me. I wouldn't want the flop to get checked through. I also don't mind if MP1 raises me.

On the turn, betting out is the way to go. You don't want a diamond flush draw to get a free card. You mentioned a flopped straight, but you've got an insta-buddy in CO if that's the case.

Since he raised you on the turn, I think check/call is the right river line.