KQ suited - after a three bet.

[Bob T.]

I open raise in mid position, with K [img]/forums/images/icons/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/forums/images/icons/diamond.gif[/img] , and the next player three bets, all fold to me, and I call.

Flop

J [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/forums/images/icons/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] .

I bet, and get called.

Turn, 8 [img]/forums/images/icons/diamond.gif[/img] .

I bet, and get called.

River 5 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] .

I bet, Comments?

[Dynasty]

In heads-up pots, I don't bet into a pre-flop 3-bettor with King-high. You need to make a hand in which case checking and calling is the best approach. Or, you need to blow him off the better hand in which case checking and raising is the best approach.

[Bob T.]

I like your play better than mine.

Thanks,

[marbles]

"In heads-up pots, I don't bet into a pre-flop 3-bettor with King-high. You need to make a hand in which case checking and calling is the best approach."

--Then what? Let's say the flop comes Q-high rags, and the turn rags again. Do you check-call again? At what point do you stop worrying about knocking your opponent out and start charging him for his underpair/overcard draw?

I realize this is a fairly opponent-dependent situation, but is there a standard play?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

I think you missed his point. If the flop comes Q-x-x, he doesn't have K-high, he has Queens with a K kicker. Totally different situation. In that case it's close to even money that he's ahead.

[marbles]

No, I saw what he was saying. A Q-high ragged flop would be great for KQ heads-up. I realize that's not what happened in this hand... I was referring to Dynasty's mention of check-calling IF the flop hits you.

[Forsaken]

He clearly didn't mean to check call when he has made a hand but to check and call when he hasn't made it yet.

[Ed Miller]

A Q-high ragged flop would be great for KQ heads-up. I realize that's not what happened in this hand... I was referring to Dynasty's mention of check-calling IF the flop hits you.

That's simply not what Dynasty said. Dynasty's point is that our hero has little chance to be ahead here. He's got a decent draw, though. Therefore, he has two choices on each street... check-call with his draw, or check-raise as a semi-bluff. Betting as a semi-bluff is too weak to push a preflop 3-bettor off a hand.

[marbles]

After rereading Dynasty's post, I can see how each of us took our separate interpretation of "You need to make a hand in which case checking and calling is the best approach."

I assume that my interpretation was incorrect; it's certainly an unpopular one, anyway.

[Casey]

I check fold the river. I like your play up to that point.