2/4 with big draw, help on turn.

Stellastarr · #1 07-15-2005, 01:04 AM

Just sat down at the table. No reads on anyone yet. I just wanted some input on the turn. I was going to raise it until MP1 raised. Is this a automatic 3bet?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $2.
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, SB completes, UTG (poster) checks.

Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, Hero...?

Shillx · #2 07-15-2005, 01:15 AM

Gotta raise the flop. Call all bets on 4th.

TStoneMBD · #3 07-15-2005, 01:34 AM

raise preflop. raise the flop. call the turn.

DemonDeac · #4 07-15-2005, 02:10 AM

not raising flop is big mistake
id prolly just call the turn to keep some money in the pot

TStoneMBD · #5 07-15-2005, 02:34 AM

its really not a "big" mistake. hes usually passing up equity but not as much as the word "big" indicates.

Stellastarr · #6 07-15-2005, 02:49 AM

I just called the flop to keep others in the pot, then waiting the turn to raise. I thought my raise would lose some callers.

Shillx · #7 07-15-2005, 02:52 AM

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I just called the flop to keep others in the pot, then waiting the turn to raise. I thought my raise would lose some callers.

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Why would you want to lose people on the turn? Do you really like drawing HU as a 2:1 underdog when you could play 3 or 4 way as a 2:1 underdog? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I would much rather lose them when I'm a 60/40 favorite or better. Better yet I want them to coldcall my flop raise.

Brad

Stellastarr · #8 07-15-2005, 02:55 AM

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I just called the flop to keep others in the pot, then waiting the turn to raise. I thought my raise would lose some callers.

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Why would you want to lose people on the turn? Do you really like drawing HU as a 2:1 underdog when you could play 3 or 4 way as a 2:1 underdog? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I would much rather lose them when I'm a 60/40 favorite or better. Better yet I want them to coldcall my flop raise.

Brad

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I didnt think I would be losing anyone on the turn since the sb bet out.

Shillx · #9 07-15-2005, 02:57 AM

That isnt the point. If MP bet out on the turn, you should not raise there. It would be a big -EV raise.

Brad

Stellastarr · #10 07-15-2005, 03:03 AM

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That isnt the point. If MP bet out on the turn, you should not raise there. It would be a big -EV raise.

Brad

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ya, I understand that part. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]