JJ on draw heavy board

silvershade · #1 07-14-2005, 06:39 PM

Reads are that MP3 is a smart player with slight tendencies to rockiness, MP1 is a calling station.

I didnt like the turn card at all, if it didnt already complete a flush it added a flush draw, also added a second possible straight draw.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero?

teajay · #2 07-14-2005, 06:46 PM

I couldn't imagine not betting/ calling a raise.
Even if you're against a flush, you still have a redraw.

shakingspear · #3 07-14-2005, 06:47 PM

I think you want to lead out again. While there's a chance one of them was on the flush draw, they also may just have a lower pair or overcards.

Redd · #4 07-14-2005, 07:01 PM

I'd lead out for value, and if nothing else you're in a really uncertain position if you check and someone behind you bets. I'd fold to a raise from the rock.

shakingspear · #5 07-14-2005, 07:10 PM

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I'd fold to a raise from the rock.

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I'd probably fold to a raise from the calling station, too.

Chris Daddy Cool · #6 07-14-2005, 07:12 PM

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I'd fold to a raise from the rock.

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I'd probably fold to a raise from the calling station, too.

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Folding would be quite bad.

Chris Daddy Cool · #7 07-14-2005, 07:13 PM

no reason not to bet.

silvershade · #8 07-14-2005, 07:33 PM

Heh, I actually did bet then fold to a raise here. At the time I considered a check/call but decided against it. Was just looking to confirm the bet was good really as I've previously had a tendency to overaggression that I'm working at curbing.

@bsolute_luck · #9 07-14-2005, 09:37 PM

folding to a reraise is foolishness. you have the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

lead out the turn even if you didn't have the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Redd · #10 07-14-2005, 10:03 PM

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folding to a reraise is foolishness. you have the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

lead out the turn even if you didn't have the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

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What hands would you say a rock would cold-call an EP PFR, and reraise with here that doesn't contain the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], or Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?