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Old 07-14-2005, 12:34 PM
gildwulf gildwulf is offline
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Default A push call Q/A at the 30s

Ironballs=solid aggro
Phillyslim05=loose calling donk
rock588=super aggressive solid player
evilganz1=tight semi-aggressive
The_Jopker=me

What are your plays here and why?

1)
***** Hand History for Game 2362275627 *****
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 13924522) - THU JUL 14 12:00:22 EDT 2005
Table Table 11562 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Ironballls (1090)
Seat 4: The_Jopker (825)
Seat 5: rock588 (2485)
Seat 6: evilganz1 (840)
Seat 10: phillyslim05 (2760)
phillyslim05 posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The_Jopker [ Ks, 6c ]

2)
***** Hand History for Game 2362277392 *****
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 13924522) - THU JUL 14 12:01:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 11562 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Ironballls (1015)
Seat 4: The_Jopker (675)
Seat 5: rock588 (2635)
Seat 6: evilganz1 (1065)
Seat 10: phillyslim05 (2610)
The_Jopker posts small blind (75)
rock588 posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The_Jopker [ Ks, 2d ]
evilganz1 folds.
phillyslim05 calls (150)
Ironballls folds.

3)
***** Hand History for Game 2362282638 *****
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 13924522) - THU JUL 14 12:03:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 11562 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Ironballls (815)
Seat 4: The_Jopker (600)
Seat 5: rock588 (4010)
Seat 6: evilganz1 (865)
Seat 10: phillyslim05 (1710)
evilganz1 posts small blind (100)
phillyslim05 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The_Jopker [ Qc, 7c ]

4)
***** Hand History for Game 2362287512 *****
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 13924522) - THU JUL 14 12:05:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 11562 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: Ironballls (915)
Seat 4: The_Jopker (900)
Seat 5: rock588 (5075)
Seat 10: phillyslim05 (1110)
Ironballls posts small blind (100)
The_Jopker posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The_Jopker [ Td, Qc ]
rock588 folds.
phillyslim05 raises (400) to 400
Ironballls folds.

Call Questions

5)
***** Hand History for Game 2362284476 *****
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 13924522) - THU JUL 14 12:03:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 11562 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Ironballls (915)
Seat 4: The_Jopker (900)
Seat 5: rock588 (4010)
Seat 6: evilganz1 (765)
Seat 10: phillyslim05 (1410)
Ironballls posts small blind (100)
The_Jopker posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The_Jopker [ 9d, Ks ]
rock588 folds.
evilganz1 raises (765) to 765
evilganz1 is all-In.
phillyslim05 folds.
Ironballls folds.
The_Jopker...

6)
***** Hand History for Game 2362286169 *****
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 13924522) - THU JUL 14 12:04:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 11562 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: Ironballls (815)
Seat 4: The_Jopker (600)
Seat 5: rock588 (5175)
Seat 10: phillyslim05 (1410)
rock588 posts small blind (100)
phillyslim05 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The_Jopker [ 5c, Ks ]
Ironballls raises (815) to 815
Ironballls is all-In.
The_Jopker...
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:46 PM
mlagoo mlagoo is offline
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

1 is a fold because of who is in the BB. Stack is big, and he's a callstation. Not happy to get allin with K6o here.

2 is a fold because of big stack BB and limper who you have very little FE with.

3 is a tough one, but I think I push here. I'm iffy though.

4 is a [push], simply because (as you said), you are in the BB and you are getting pretty solid odds here.

5 is a fold, I think. It's a call that I may have made previously but that I now understand is a bad call.

6 is a fold, want to be first in, probably push any two cards next hand though (kind of desperation time, but I'd like to have some amount of FE).

Those are my takes.

edit: changed 4 and 5. meant to say bad call on 5. in 4, I completely missed you being in the BB. It's a push/call I hate to make, but that i know I have to. I guess there are worse hands to be forced into calling with.
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

[ QUOTE ]
Ironballs=solid aggro
Phillyslim05=loose calling donk
rock588=super aggressive solid player
evilganz1=tight semi-aggressive
The_Jopker=me

[/ QUOTE ]

At the $33s?

yeaaaa suuuuureeee
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:53 PM
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Old 07-14-2005, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

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1 is a fold because of who is in the BB. Stack is big, and he's a callstation. Not happy to get allin with K6o here.

2 is a fold because of big stack BB and limper who you have very little FE with.

3 is a tough one, but I think I push here. I'm iffy though.

4 is a fold, not really looking to get allin with Q high.

5 is a fold, I think. It's a call that I may have made previously but that I now understand is a big call.

6 is a fold, want to be first in, probably push any two cards next hand though (kind of desperation time, but I'd like to have some amount of FE).

Those are my takes.

[/ QUOTE ]

Note that you are in BB in hand 4 with a little more than 2 BB left. For number 5 do you mean it's a big fold?
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

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Note that you are in BB in hand 4 with a little more than 2 BB left. For number 5 do you mean it's a big fold?

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changed 4 and 5. 5 was a typo, 4 was an oversight. i push/call 4.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

I think you are giving too much credit to your opponents, anyways what the other guy said about your hands is pretty much exactly what I'd do.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

4 I would stop and go, you'll get called 100% of the time if you push preflop anyway.

By the way it's the 1k stack in the BB for hand 1, isn't it? In which case I push.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

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I think you are giving too much credit to your opponents, anyways what the other guy said about your hands is pretty much exactly what I'd do.

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OK, sorry bout the mixup. I was confused [previous post deleted].

Yea, I folded everything and pushed the QTo. I was up in the air about the q7 hand....hand 1 the donk is in BB.

I thought my reads were pretty spot on, at least the read on the loose superdonk. Maybe the aggro guys were just getting cards though.
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: A push call Q/A at the 30s

Oh and 2 is a fold, 3 is a push (absolutely definitely), and 5 and 6 are folds.
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