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OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
Hero has been being nagged by girlfriend and forgot to sit out. When he comes back there are two unknowns to his right.
Hero is in the BB w/ K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] All fold to button who calls, SB folds. Hero checks. 2.5 SB in pot. Flop comes, 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Hero checks, Button Bets, Hero ??? Please humor me in all my stupidity. |
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
Calls
Should have betted though. Edit: Sorry you have to raise. |
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
sorry, changed A2h to K2h
I didn't want the overcard factoring in. Still your recommendation? |
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
20 cents on flush draws. Big deal MICROLIMITER .
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
Yeah still. You have the nut flush draw. Bet and call a raise. If you dont make a flush on the turn youll have to fold since the pot is really small.
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
I would have bet out.
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
This is just a math problem. Do the math and someone would be happy to point out any errors that might exist, but I think you'd be much better off figuring this out for yourself.
-DeathDonkey |
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
Well, I've done the math but left it out because I didn't want to lead answers...
Basically, i'm 2:1 to get it by the river, and 4.2:1 to get it on the turn. The pot's laying me 3.5:1 on my call. I've done the math, but I think I've been looking at the wrong numbers. For some reason (I think it might not have been explained in WLLH, first book I read) I thought that the odds to call flop bets were only based on the next card, NOT making it by the river. I always figured the charts that listed odds to make a hand from the flop BY THE river were for when you were all-in in Hold 'Em, as the pot odds would match up *exactly* with the odds of making your hand. So, if your flop decisions are supposed to be made by odds that you'll make the *best* hand by the river, I've been folding WAY too many drawing hands. Not just flush draws. So, whoever said I shouldn't worry about this prolly doesn't understand this could be a huge leak, considering it's frequency and given up earning potential... |
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
Actually the more important issue here is that on the flop the bets are only a small bet and on the turn they are twice as much.
My line here would be to bet the flop and call a raise. The flop bet is for a few reasons. First, I might have the best hand. Second, villian might fold a hand that is beating me. Third, I have a strong draw (king outs will be good here reasonably often as well) I also represent a made hand and force the villian to react to me. If the villian raises I will call getting odds on my flush draw. If I miss the turn I will not have odds to see the river so I will check/fold. |
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Re: OMG, I think I\'ve Lost a Ton of Money on Flush Draws
[ QUOTE ]
Actually the more important issue here is that on the flop the bets are only a small bet and on the turn they are twice as much. [/ QUOTE ] Well, then I made a bad example hand, and was worried about it 'cause I know implied odds are in my favor regardless. The issue I'm really worried about is the odds to call on the flop? Is it based off the next card or the odds to make the best hand by the river? |
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