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Old 07-13-2005, 10:20 PM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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Default Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

Interesting hand against an aggro. Mid limit, 5 handed. I have 99 in the small. One limper, button raises, I reraise, BB coldcalls, limper calls and button calls. Button is aggro almost to a fault, but not so clueless to constantly throw good money after bad. Anyway, flop is JJ5, two clubs. I bet, BB folds, limper calls, button raises, I reraise, limper drops, button calls. Turn is an offsuit 6. I check, he bets and I call. River is an offsuit 10. I check, he bets, I call.

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Jeff
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

Seems ok to me.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:49 PM
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Nice playing, sir. I just started reading these posts recently, & I'm really impressed. I look fordward tolearning a lot and hope that I will ocasionallybe able to add something, too.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

perfect. that was a good donk check on the turn. well done.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

I like it. Either he has something or is betting the worst hand.

I just need to know when I should be taking this line.
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Old 07-14-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

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Either he has something or is betting the worst hand.

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True, I guess.
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

Well-played. The flop 3-bet was crucial to define the limper's hand, and in this case, fold him out of the pot.

Once it was heads up, I like your check on the turn so you can determine if he likes his hand enough for a bet. I don't want him raising me on the turn as a bluff, because you definitely have showdown value with your 99, but its certainly not worth jamming and you don't want to get played off it when you can showdown for those same two bets. You give him free cards, but, alas, that's positional disadvantage.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

What if he had two clubs and called the three bet on the flop (instead of 4 betting) to semi bluff raise the turn or had just planned to call a bet on the turn, but then when you checked he got to instead check behind and see a free card? Is he the kind of player that would bet a draw after you 3 bet the flop? Is it not worth just betting out on the turn so that the hand doesn't end up butchered if he has a flush draw?
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

This brings up an interesting point. You say (and I thought this also), you don't want to be driven off the best hand. But say he would raise something like AK on the turn some percentage of the time...would it not be better than to bet the turn and call a raise? Obviously, this increases variance but I doubt I'm folding this hand. Though say he raises the turn with something like 77 and an ace comes on the end. That will be a difficult check call for me and he could steal the pot.

I'm also surprised no one advocated a river bet on my part in case something like Ace hi would check behind. Any comments on this? I'm glad people liked how I played the hand, because I wasn't sure.

Thanks,
Jeff
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:55 AM
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Default Re: Out of Position Against an Aggro Player

If he had the flush draw,he's betting the turn.Even if he didn't he's betting the turn.
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