Very passive 20/40

Lalit Khajuria · #1 07-12-2005, 09:05 AM

Same opponent as in the other hand.

Little background I have couple of times folded to one bet on flop after my preflop raise, but not against this opponent.

He open raises again and I three bet Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Others fold and he calls.
Flop 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] he bets and I call.
Turn 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I check-call
River 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] And I check-call again.

During the hand I tried to find good spots to raise without getting myself into more trouble, but couldent find any possible places.

yanicehand · #2 07-12-2005, 03:39 PM

I raise the flop, let the hand play out from there. When you play it like you did, you unfortunately don't get any kind of idea where you're at in the hand. If you really want, you could donk the turn (spade draw that showed up) but I rarely do that.

mscags · #3 07-12-2005, 03:47 PM

I agree. I think you need to raise this flop and then that will give you a better idea of where you are. After that it will be easier to either get away from or push.

freehat · #4 07-12-2005, 04:12 PM

This hand is played perfectly IMO, you want one bet going in on each street, so as long as villain is betting you are calling. And for those who want to raise, do you really think the information you get is reliable and how will it benefit you as opposed to calling each street.

zephed · #5 07-12-2005, 05:15 PM

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I agree. I think you need to raise this flop and then that will give you a better idea of where you are. After that it will be easier to either get away from or push.

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I'm pretty sure this is a limit hand, as most posts in this forum are.

Alobar · #6 07-12-2005, 05:26 PM

Im a little confused by the action. Do you have position on him or no?

zephed · #7 07-12-2005, 05:46 PM

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Im a little confused by the action. Do you have position on him or no?

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It is unclear, but I'm pretty sure he's out of position.

PF and flop he writes as if he's in position, postflop like he's OOP.

I would bet the flop if I were out of position.

Surfbullet · #8 07-12-2005, 06:38 PM

I'm assuming you got donkbet on the flop. While the flop raise is tempting, our opponent is usually drawing to 3-5 outs, with the occasional flushdraw thrown in.

We much prefer him to put 1 bet in on each street - no need to raise and let him fold his junk pair/unpaired hands, and get 3bet by his best hands. You charge a FD a bit more but you have position so you can bet if he checks, so no free cards.

Long story short, I like the way you played it.

Surf