turn play

[mr pink]

party 5/10

villain's stats are 19/10/2.7 over 800+ hands

loose passive utg limps, 1 fold, TAG opponent in utg+3 raises, 3 folds, i 3-bet in the CO with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], folded around to utg who calls 2 cold, TAG in utg+3 calls. 3 to the flop.

flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] - 10.4 sbs

loose passive checks, TAG villain bets, hero raises, loose passive folds, TAG villain 3-bets, hero calls.

about the flop raise, i had seen villain gaybet into a lot of preflop raises with crap and then fold to a raise... how would you normally play a flop like this against an unknown? just fold? try and get to a showdown cheaply? once he 3-bets, the pot is laying me 15:1.

turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] - 8ish bbs

TAG villain bets, hero ???

[brettbrettr]

I think you have to fold that turn.

[ncboiler]

You are proably drawing to two outs. If you think you are then it's an easy fold. What do you put him on? I'm thinking he has high PP or A/K.

[Kyle]

With a hand like nines flop raise is a must three handed. The villian flop three bet sucks and I dont see any hands that he might have that you are ahead of, so it looks like a fold to me.

[mr pink]

what do you put villain on?

[brettbrettr]

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what do you put villain on?

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Hard to say given the HU-ness of this pot, AcKc? QQ? I think his turn bet on that king, plus the earlier action gives him a better than you though. If you wanted to raise and not put anymore money into the pot I wouldn't hate you.

[Bill C]

TAG's 3-bet on the flop, and then lead on the turn says you're beat, and should fold with your 2-outer.

I realize this is a dumbass question, but what does "gaybet" mean?
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bill c

[CashFlo]

hero folds

[mr pink]

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Hard to say given the HU-ness of this pot, AcKc? QQ? I think his turn bet on that king, plus the earlier action gives him a better than you though. If you wanted to raise and not put anymore money into the pot I wouldn't hate you.

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he's pretty solid. so i think he's capping both of those preflop, especially with the loose/passive tagging along for the ride. doesn't AJ make more sense? also, it's not unusual for AK to raise the flop in this situation looking for a free river. AK is a very plausible hand for me in this situation imo.

[JinX11]

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I realize this is a dumbass question, but what does "gaybet" mean?
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bill c

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Also called a "donkbet". It means betting out into an opponent, out-of-position, when a player behind had the initiative in the previous betting round. Hero 3-bet the flop, but Villian bet out on the flop. Called a "gaybet" or "donkbet" b/c most people can see the good opportunity for a check-raise.