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Old 07-11-2005, 01:24 AM
Haupt_234 Haupt_234 is offline
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Default Suited ace out of the SB

BB is a LPP fishy and is why i'm at this table.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO folds.

River: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Standard small suited ace out of the SB?

Haupt_234
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Old 07-11-2005, 01:56 AM
zephed zephed is offline
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Default Re: Suited ace out of the SB

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BB is a LPP fishy and is why i'm at this table.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO folds.

River: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Standard small suited ace out of the SB?

Haupt_234

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The SB complete is good.

Well the board is pretty scary, so I think the bet the turn line was fine.
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:27 AM
EliteNinja EliteNinja is offline
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Default Re: Suited ace out of the SB

I think you should have pumped the flush draw on the flop. Check to the BB (raises). It is very unlikely BB will have a 4 or 7 preflop. CO however may be on a draw or have a 4 or 7.

You should raise after his call. If someone has the 4 or 7, you get action on your nut flush draw and you may draw profitably.
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:41 AM
zephed zephed is offline
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Default Re: Suited ace out of the SB

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I think you should have pumped the flush draw on the flop. Check to the BB (raises). It is very unlikely BB will have a 4 or 7 preflop. CO however may be on a draw or have a 4 or 7.

You should raise after his call. If someone has the 4 or 7, you get action on your nut flush draw and you may draw profitably.

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Ack, you're right.

I like the checkraise here also because it gives you fold equity later on, if the fish happens to just have overcards. This makes it pretty hard for him to play back at you.

Also, the turn lead will be more disguised if he decides to play back aggressively with a big pair. This could net you a couple extra turn bets some of the time.

Not to mention there is still a sliver of value in a flop raise.
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