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Old 07-09-2005, 05:11 PM
tminus tminus is offline
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Default Push top pair J kick here ?

Both of these players love to limp any two face cards.
I didnt want to push preflop because I just stole from StJohn. The min raise seems like a foolish idea with my stack size so I decided to check and see the flop.

As I see it postflop, the only thing I have to worry about is one of them holding 88 or 66. Flush draw is a possibility too but Im not about to lay this down with such odds. What would you do ?

#Game No : 2336146443
***** Hand History for Game 2336146443 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13786403 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Saturday, July 09, 15:07:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 35133 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 6: Tminus9 ( $955 )
Seat 1: awertqetqb46 ( $1230 )
Seat 9: rooster774 ( $1015 )
Seat 7: stjohns17 ( $520 )
Seat 10: kgw37 ( $4280 )
Trny:13786403 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Tminus9 [ Ac Js ]
stjohns17 calls [150].
rooster774 calls [150].
kgw37 folds.
awertqetqb46 folds.
Tminus9 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8c, 6d ]
Tminus9 is all-In [805]
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:17 PM
jcm4ccc jcm4ccc is offline
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Default Re: Push top pair J kick here ?

[ QUOTE ]

I didnt want to push preflop because I just stole from StJohn.

[/ QUOTE ] Yeah, and now you have a great hand. Push it preflop and hope A9o calls you.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:18 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: Push top pair J kick here ?

[ QUOTE ]
Both of these players love to limp any two face cards.
I didnt want to push preflop because I just stole from StJohn. The min raise seems like a foolish idea with my stack size so I decided to check and see the flop.

As I see it postflop, the only thing I have to worry about is one of them holding 88 or 66. Flush draw is a possibility too but Im not about to lay this down with such odds. What would you do ?

#Game No : 2336146443
***** Hand History for Game 2336146443 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:13786403 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Saturday, July 09, 15:07:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 35133 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 6: Tminus9 ( $955 )
Seat 1: awertqetqb46 ( $1230 )
Seat 9: rooster774 ( $1015 )
Seat 7: stjohns17 ( $520 )
Seat 10: kgw37 ( $4280 )
Trny:13786403 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Tminus9 [ Ac Js ]
stjohns17 calls [150].
rooster774 calls [150].
kgw37 folds.
awertqetqb46 folds.
Tminus9 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8c, 6d ]
Tminus9 is all-In [805]

[/ QUOTE ]

first off, i would've raised preflop. IMO, you make it harder on yourself to put him on 8 8, 6 6, or a flush draw by checking. even still, i probably would've played the same way on the flop after checking.
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:20 PM
tminus tminus is offline
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Default Re: Push top pair J kick here ?

thanks man

i get afraid of spite calls when i raise into the BB alot though
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:40 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: Push top pair J kick here ?

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thanks man

i get afraid of spite calls when i raise into the BB alot though

[/ QUOTE ]

don't be. when you play the low levels enough, there are gonna be quite a few spite calls. as a matter of fact, there are gonna be quite a few absent-minded calls too. in situations where i'm likely to be the favorite, i don't worry about it. my motto is: RAISE to thin the field. stack off on the board and push players who call you with any kind of hand to pay you off when you're a favorite. when you lose, it's blows [well over 80% of the time, i lose on the river to a imbecile with the worse hand]. when you win, you set yourself up to control the table if you're good enough [these situations are where i make most of my profit from SNGs]. raising oppurtunities [even with mediocre hands in the right spots] become alot more numerous when you've shown the ability to showdown the best hand[s].
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Old 07-09-2005, 06:08 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Push top pair J kick here ?

OK, you didn't raise PF (bad, but oh well).

Why do you now feel the urgent need to make a 2 outer fold rather than bluff into you with his 2 outs?
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