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Old 07-09-2005, 02:45 PM
ISF ISF is offline
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Default QJ In trouble

I figured the threebet was either a fd I wanted to make pay or a hand that crushed me. How is this line. Should I just call the threebet then gaybet the turn?
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Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds,
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Old 07-09-2005, 05:53 PM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Default Re: QJ In trouble

This is a tough decision but I would seriously consider folding the flop. You are in terrible trouble here. It's going to cost at least 3 BB and often more to see showdown. Yet the odds are very high that at least one opponent has you beat and you probably have few live outs.

Your best case scenario is something like A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Your pot equity is 48%.

Replace the strangely played flush draw with the much more sensible black sevens and your pot equity drops to less than 5%.

The main point is you shouldn't even consider capping. Aside from the negative EV involved, you really want to know if CO wants to cap. If CO caps and you miss the turn the info gained by just calling will save you a lot.
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Old 07-09-2005, 08:18 PM
sinfulslick18 sinfulslick18 is offline
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Default Re: QJ In trouble

the flop is nuts.. best thing is to step back and fold
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