3 bet by a TAG preflop - what's your plan?

[mack848]

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ??

Villain is certain to auto-raise if I bet and I thought at the time he would auto 3 bet a check raise - he had a post flop aggression of 3.5.

Given his 3-bet range, check/fold right?

[Dariel86]

I would check fold here. You probably wont get him to fold. And you probably aren't even ahead. He might already have a big pair or better overcards than you ( AK).

I think it's chip spewage to start messing around here.

[ncboiler]

He is unimproved. Do you think you were ahead preflop? I would check and peel one off. Fold to a bet unimproved on the turn.

[A_C_Slater]

six outs and three of them may be unclean getting 7 to 1. check/fold.

[mack848]

Trouble is, if I peal one off and hit an ace, do I like it? His most likely holding is AK.

[ncboiler]

I am looking for one reason to say call a bet but can now only think of 10 to say check/fold

[Entity]

First I check. Then I fold. If it were live I would casually toss my cards into the muck.

Rob

[jstewsmole]

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U probably know the reason for this but ill give mine anyway so jasont wont berate me for typing a one word response post. Just kidding JT [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The typical tag wont 3 bet u here with any thing that AQ would beat. Even if ur counting ur overcards as 5 outs ur not getting the right price and thats a generous outs estimate, IMO.

[UseThePeenEnd]

My question calls for a definition of "typical TAG". If this guy would only 3-bet preflop with AA-QQ, AKs, and AK, then I dump this stinker.

I also see players whose numbers fall under the TAG umbrella 3-betting in this position with AA-TT, AKs and AK, and occasionally lighter. In this case, I would be inclined to peel one cheaply on the flop, since you will get to see a turn card for max 1SB in a 7.5SB pot with a hand that is a 4:1 dog. If either an ace or queen falls on the turn, you are about a 2:1 favorite against that range of hands.

[smb394]

I'd go with the check/fold. Any idea on Villain's PFR%? 10-10 or JJ are distinct possibilities if it's a TAG, but yes, you are usually behind here.