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Old 07-07-2005, 05:12 PM
marken marken is offline
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Default another boring overcard hand

no reads.

Is the fold on the turn ok?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

Cap preflop.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

why are you raising the flop? I would just call w/ overcards (no backdoor flush possible) getting 8.5 to 1 odds to call profitably w/ over cards (needs 7 to 1 odds).

I think 3 betting is wasting a bet because he already 3 bet PF. Unless you think you can get him to fold AK or AQ.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:23 PM
AceCraig AceCraig is offline
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

Yeah, what he said, cap preflop, then if he bets you know your probably behind. If he ckecks then maybe you can push him off his hand if he missed the flop.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

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why are you raising the flop? I would just call w/ overcards (no backdoor flush possible) getting 8.5 to 1 odds to call profitably w/ over cards (needs 7 to 1 odds).

I think 3 betting is wasting a bet because he already 3 bet PF. Unless you think you can get him to fold AK or AQ.

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The tought with raising the flop was part for value and part for maybe a freecard on the turn. (But if checked to me, i probably have the best hand so i guess a bet should be in order then i guess). Guess i wanted to define my hand, but maybe it's not worth a SB.

The thing about 3-betting you said i don't follow.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

Hmm that no reads part makes this fairly tough.

Notice that you have 6 to 3 outs so let's just say 4.5 so a fold is reasonable. If he/she will do this with medium pairs however you have a pure call. This is also why I'm not so enamored with the raise for a free card play. Here you have a situation were the free card play failed but makes it marginally correct for you to call on the turn.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

good advice about the preflop cap. thanks shant and AceCraig!
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

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Cap preflop.

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yuck
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

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Cap preflop.

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yuck

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why do you say yuck?
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Old 07-07-2005, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: another boring overcard hand

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Cap preflop.

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yuck

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What's wrong with capping preflop with AKo in position?
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