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Old 07-05-2005, 12:56 PM
felson felson is offline
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Default Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

Here's a hand that took place at my table on Saturday morning.

The table was on the tight side for a 2/5 game. I hadn't seen anything outrageous from the players in this hand, although I had no reason to think they were particularly great (except that one guy bought in for 1500, which made me think he might be good).

I fold UTG. UTG+1 40ish guy (210) raises to 25. Three folds, then there is a 40ish guy MP cold caller (bought in for 1500). The next player (MP+1), 25ish tightish kid (550) raises to 60. Folded back to UTG+1 who calls, MP calls too.

Flop 9d3s2d. UTG+1 goes all in for remaining 150. MP calls after ~5 seconds thought. After a few more seconds, kid goes all in for ~500. MP thinks for like 20 seconds and calls.

I'll stipulate here that all the plays in this hand would seem reasonable or defensible to a typical (i.e., bad) 2/5 player. This is not to say that all the players played their hands well.

All hands were shown down (this is not a hint). Put each player on a hand or range of hands.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

utg 88/TT/JJ/QQ
MP 33/22/XdXd maybe
Kid KK/AA/AdKd
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

UTG and MP+1 on pairs and MP on the nut flush draw with overs. UTG probably has TT, JJ or QQ.

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Old 07-05-2005, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

UTG+1 - JJ/TT
MP - 99
MP+1 = AKd
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

UTG- TT/JJ
MP- AdKd/AdQd
KID- AA/KK
ok.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

UTG - QQ, JJ, TT, AdKd (I expect stronger hands to check the flop or reraise preflop - the push is more likely to mean he doesn't want to see the turn)
MP - QQ? KK? AdKd? Hard to come up with something that just calls the whole way
Kid - AA-QQ? Depends how tight "tightesh" means...

If I had to guess specific hands I'd say JJ, KK, and AA, in that order.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

I feel like MP doesn't have too strong a hand, otherwise why would he take his time calling the tightish players raise on flop? He should know a set will be good the vast majority of the time.

Trying to dumb down the hands knowing this is live 2/5.

UTG+1: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP: JJ
MP+1: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

kid -99

utg+1- 10, 10 or J, J

old guy- AQd or AKd
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

UTG: 99, 1010, JJ
MP: AK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], AQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], possibly A3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Kid: AA, KK

Im guessing MP has to have the Ad which narrows down the possibilities for the other two.
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Wynn 2/5 NL hand reading exercise

UTG - 9's, 10's, JJ's, AKd or Aqd If he had high pair, being the short stack, I think he would have come over the top all in pre flop. I don't see a UTG raise with 2's or 3's. He could have been slow playing a big pair, but given his relative chip stack he probbaly just would have gotten it all in preflop.

MP - Over pair 10 10, JJ or AKd. Caught in the middle with a good hand but likely the worst giving the betting, hence the stalling.

MP + 1 = KK AA, Very strong bets following strength showed by both players pre and post flop.
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