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Old 07-04-2005, 12:15 AM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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Default A hand I lose. (100+10 empire rebuy)

***** Hand History for Game 2306013383 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:13627704 Level:11 Blinds (400/800) - Sunday, July 03, 21:53:45 EDT 2005
Table $50,000 Guaranteed Sunday Night Poker(370672) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: JPRiverman ( $13035 )
Seat 9: blaydzfsteel ( $9092 )
Seat 4: pokerman1007 ( $21451 )
Seat 3: shad24 ( $8620 )
Seat 8: eBay_Junkie ( $12773 )
Seat 10: noodle45 ( $21435 )
Seat 2: Rhythe ( $14655 )
Seat 5: bkdubbers ( $8320 )
Seat 1: AJAXMAN1 ( $22088 )
Seat 7: crabber60 ( $8780 )
Trny:13627704 Level:11
Blinds (400/800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to blaydzfsteel [ Qh 7d ]
bkdubbers folds.
JPRiverman folds.
crabber60 folds.
eBay_Junkie folds.
blaydzfsteel raises [2000].
noodle45 could not respond in time.(disconnected)
noodle45 folds.
AJAXMAN1 folds.
Rhythe folds.
shad24 calls [1600].
pokerman1007 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, Qd, 3h ]
shad24 checks.
blaydzfsteel bets [3000].
shad24 is all-In [6620]
blaydzfsteel calls [3620].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
blaydzfsteel shows [ Qh, 7d ] a pair of queens.
shad24 shows [ Kc, Kd ] a pair of kings.
shad24 wins 18040 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.


Thoughts?
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Old 07-04-2005, 12:41 AM
Pasterbator Pasterbator is offline
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Default Re: A hand I lose. (100+10 empire rebuy)

he played that hand well. Maybe next time you should have Q10 so you can bust his KK.

Real advice:
I think when he check-raises there, you know you're beat, since he has almost no FE here. Even still, with the money in the pot, i think i still call and river a 7.
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Old 07-04-2005, 12:47 AM
luvrhino luvrhino is offline
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Default It\'s people like you that never allow me to play a hand, dammit

Attempted blind steal from three off the Button with Q7o and only raising 2.5xBB?

That's a remarkably bad idea...both the hand you attempted it with and the size of the bet. The risk/reward ratio isn't worth it, except in special (usually bubble) situations. You really don't want to get called, so you'd have to make the pot odds unfavorable by raising more than that. Of course, that wouldn't have helped against KK.

I would have made a smaller post-Flop (2000ish) continuation bet to leave more folding equity if Check-Raised against most opponents. Your hand was caught in the cookie jar, be prepared to give it up. I guess he could have JJ, KJ, or 99 or something, but yuck.

Then again, if it was ever folded to me 3 off the Button and i got a hand as nice as Q7o during that same tournament, i would have tried stealing the blinds, myself. I was never so fortunate after Level 2.
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Old 07-04-2005, 12:57 AM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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Default Re: It\'s people like you that never allow me to play a hand, dammit

You are quite close minded, that raise size was taking down the blinds and we were hand for hand waiting for the money (9 people away) If I take the blinds two out of every 3 times this is profitable, but more importantly are the stack sizes in question that make the PF play a good one imo.
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Old 07-04-2005, 01:09 AM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: A hand I lose. (100+10 empire rebuy)

1)You're too short to do this type of stuff unless the big stacks suck, because if pokerman is decent he'll often push 93o;
2)More importantly, when the guy CR's the flop he has Q7 beat.
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Old 07-04-2005, 01:29 AM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default Re: A hand I lose. (100+10 empire rebuy)

with 11 bb, i hate your play pf. otherwise i like it.
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