AJ in BB

AliasMrJones · #1 07-03-2005, 12:36 PM

Villain was unknown at the time. I assumed the flop raise was flush draw as a set/2 pair will almost always wait for the turn to raise. Comments?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 raises, Button folds, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (9 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

mr pink · #2 07-03-2005, 12:38 PM

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amazingly standard.

cassady · #3 07-03-2005, 01:01 PM

I think your hand is good here. But two things to consider:

1). If you were so sure it was a free card play from a flush draw, why did you bet out when the draw hit on the river. Given your read (which I don't think was as strong as you think it was), a check-call on the river would be appropriate.

2). Given that not that many players at 2/4 make a free card play, I may have taken the line of calling the flop, check raising the turn, and folding to a three bet.

As a side note, I suspect you may have just discovered the power of the free card play yourself. When I first really got into making that move regularly, it worked so well I thought EVERYONE else must be doing it as well. All of a sudden I was reading every late position flop raise as an attempt to buy a free card.

mr pink · #4 07-03-2005, 01:08 PM

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1). If you were so sure it was a free card play from a flush draw, why did you bet out when the draw hit on the river. Given your read (which I don't think was as strong as you think it was), a check-call on the river would be appropriate.

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the flop raise is usually a weaker JAck.

cassady · #5 07-03-2005, 01:09 PM

agreed.

AliasMrJones · #6 07-03-2005, 01:13 PM

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1). If you were so sure it was a free card play from a flush draw, why did you bet out when the draw hit on the river. Given your read (which I don't think was as strong as you think it was), a check-call on the river would be appropriate.

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the flop raise is usually a weaker JAck.

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Or a flopped straight.

jgorham · #7 07-03-2005, 01:26 PM

I think you played this hand well postflop. Preflop, if you are against a bunch of loose limpers (which you want to be) then I would raise.

cassady · #8 07-03-2005, 01:50 PM

Actually, this was my first instinct as well. I was curious enough about it I consulted the preflop guidelines from SSHE. Miller doesn't recommend a raise here. I can't quite make up my mind. I think there's a certain amount of value in keeping your hand hidden and checkraising a favourable flop......but those are the arguments S&M make in HEPFAP for not raising AQ, which is an auto-raise for me.

Anyone care to discuss this?

Mike Gallo · #9 07-03-2005, 01:51 PM

I like it.