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Old 07-03-2005, 12:35 PM
iluzion iluzion is offline
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Default another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

SB: checks
BB: bets $4
hero: folds

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Old 07-03-2005, 12:42 PM
Jonny Melon Jonny Melon is offline
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

This looks very standard to me. What do you think you misplayed?
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

reply was on original hand that is now deleted
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Old 07-03-2005, 12:52 PM
iluzion iluzion is offline
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

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This looks very standard to me. What do you think you misplayed?

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OOPS I posted the wrong hand.. I'll edit with the new one..
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

I raise the flop, hoping to fold SB and then see where the hand goes. If the turn is checked to me after my flop raise, I probably bet that as well.
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

i raise the flop all the time here unless the bettor is real agressive, i raise to try knock out those behind me and get some clue as to what the bettor has,ie if he reraises,you know you are behind
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

But if he just calls your raise you get no information. He could have KQ, a pair of jacks, a pair of tens, a 7 or nothing.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

True you get no information when he calls your raise. You don't get any information by just calling his bet either. I'd rather take the lead in the hand. I then bet the turn; on the river, I chose to bet or check based on the balance of the hand.
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Old 07-03-2005, 04:51 PM
alekhine8 alekhine8 is offline
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Default Re: another mid pair, top kicker, how wrong?

I would raise the flop here and get it heads-up with the BB, unless he's passive postflop and wouldn't bet into the field without top pair or better.

I would bet the turn and probably check behind on the river unimproved.
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