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Old 06-29-2005, 08:20 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

Party Poker $20+2 No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

SB (t95)
BB (t4466)
UTG (t2103)
Hero (t1336)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, BB calls t200.

Flop: (t900) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ??? (wants to get paid)

Was the preflop minraise a good idea?
How do I get as many of BB's chips in the pot as possible?
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:29 PM
bluefeet bluefeet is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in


you only have T900 left in a T900 pot, no time to get cute....with BB's stack he's calling your flop push w/ a piece - let it rip!
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:32 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

Just push it on the flop. I'd push it preflop too.
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:35 PM
octaveshift octaveshift is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

Ah, push it
Ah, push it

Oooh, baby, baby
Baby, baby
Oooh, baby, baby
Baby, baby

Get up on this!

Ow! Baby!
Salt and Pepa's here!

[Now wait a minute, y'all
This dance ain't for everybody
Only the sexy people
So all you fly mothers, get on out there and dance
Dance, I said!]

Salt and Pepa's here, and we're in effect
Want you to push it, babe
Coolin' by day then at night working up a sweat
C'mon girls, let's go show the guys that we know
How to become number one in a hot party show
Now push it

Ah, push it - push it good
Ah, push it - push it real good
Ah, push it - push it good
Ah, push it - p-push it real good

Hey! Ow!
Push it good!

Oooh, baby, baby
Baby, baby
Oooh, baby, baby
Baby, baby

Yo, yo, yo, yo, baby-pop
Yeah, you come here, gimme a kiss
Better make it fast or else I'm gonna get pissed
Can't you hear the music's pumpin' hard like I wish you would?
Now push it

Push it good
P-push it real good

Ah, push it
Get up on this!

Boy, you really got me going
You got me so I don't know what I'm doing

Ah, push it
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Old 06-29-2005, 09:24 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

I need someone to convince me that pushing is the correct play. It seems to me I'd rather be called here, and I doubt pushing either preflop or postflop is the way to do that.
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Old 06-29-2005, 09:25 PM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

(push preflop)

If everyone folds, then your cards get shown and you pick up FE down the line.

If someone calls, awesome.
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Old 06-29-2005, 09:46 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

You would rather be called. But pushing is better than letting some random 76o hit a straight or 54 hit two pair.
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Old 06-29-2005, 09:52 PM
Sluke Sluke is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

[ QUOTE ]
(push preflop)

If everyone folds, then your cards get shown and you pick up FE down the line.

If someone calls, awesome.

[/ QUOTE ]

Plus, if you pushing everything that is marginable when you min raise with only 6 BB it throws up a red flag to those that have been paying attention.

mel424
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:00 PM
the_joker the_joker is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

The pre-flop min raise is way too supicious since your stack is so small, so I don't think it's a good idea. Also, due to short stack all-in, you don't want any callers pre-flop or on the flop, so push.
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Old 06-29-2005, 10:01 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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Default Re: KK on the bubble with a shortstack all-in

yes ure right, when u push u canhave or 23o or AA, now after ur play when u push u can have 23o or 99, ppl lose respect for you.
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