Bullys keep pushing me around

Enon · #1 06-29-2005, 07:58 AM

SB: Tough multitabling regular (16/10/2.5)
BB: Have only a few hands on him but seems pretty tag (20/14/2.x)

Figured I was up against at least one other ace, possibly a very fastly played set from the BB or another ace.

My effective odds cold calling another 2 would be 9.5-1 assuming SB just called the additional bet and they would be 7-1 if betting gets capped.

Prudent fold or am I just hopelessly weak tight?

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Preflop: Enon is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, Enon calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Enon bets, SB raises, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, Enon folds

mplspoker · #2 06-29-2005, 11:05 AM

in my opinion i would cap it and go from there....

rory · #3 06-29-2005, 12:49 PM

Maybe if you didn't cold call raises with raped hands you would not get into this sort of situation.

Stuck · #4 06-29-2005, 02:25 PM

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Maybe if you didn't cold call raises with raped hands you would not get into this sort of situation.

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Especially with two TAGs in the blinds.

Three-bets to me on that flop, and with two good players raising, I fold.

daryn · #5 06-29-2005, 02:56 PM

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dude, it was a float, not a cold call

rory · #6 06-29-2005, 04:23 PM

ohh. i misread the hand history....VVNH then.

elindauer · #7 06-29-2005, 04:59 PM

Looks like a prudent fold to me. You're not closing the action, all signs point to you drawing thin, and you're facing a redraw even if you do catch perfect. Without the backdoor flush draw it's an easy fold.

Good luck.
Eric

PokerCad · #8 06-29-2005, 05:13 PM

sounds like the rich getting richer,,lol If you're going to play the hand I'm guessin' the flush is the only winner here, I would have taken the free card when I had the chance off of the flop then re'evaluated any additional investment

Steve Giufre · #9 06-29-2005, 05:43 PM

Anybody who tells you to play on here is way off in my opinion. Your flop line is good. Its really hard/borderline impossible for me to put both of those guys on hands that you beat. I think its best to put in a little action early here like you did. I realize you dont want to make a bad fold in a big pot, but in good sized multiway pots with draw heavy boards I think you are likely to get accurate inforamtion on the flop against these types of opponents. At least one of them has a bigger ace here IMO. I do think your preflop cold call is pretty bad though.

bernie · #10 06-29-2005, 05:50 PM

A coldcall is a coldcall no matter how pretty you want to make it.

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