From 4185 to broke in 2 hands.

[Myst]

Evaluate if both of my pushes were correct. Table image was very agressive since becoming big stack, but I had never shown any of my agressive all in pushes (except winning with QQ earlier to obtain my big stack).

***** Hand History for Game 2279344893 *****
NL Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:13491655 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Tuesday, June 28, 22:06:27 EDT 2005
Table Table 12122 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: Mystraised ( $4185 )
Seat 4: msnuts3 ( $1700 )
Seat 8: RoyalCrap ( $1375 )
Seat 10: Mulperi ( $2740 )
Trny:13491655 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mystraised [ 5h 3s ]
RoyalCrap folds.
Mulperi folds.
Mystraised is all-In [3935]
msnuts3 is all-In [1200]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 8s, Td ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

#Game No : 2279347127
***** Hand History for Game 2279347127 *****
NL Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:13491655 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Tuesday, June 28, 22:06:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 12122 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: Mystraised ( $2485 )
Seat 4: msnuts3 ( $3400 )
Seat 8: RoyalCrap ( $1375 )
Seat 10: Mulperi ( $2740 )
Trny:13491655 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mystraised [ Ac 5c ]
Mulperi folds.
Mystraised is all-In [2485]
msnuts3 is all-In [3150]
RoyalCrap folds.

[ChuckNorris]

LOL I'm Mulperi. I asked you something like "Mystraised, are you Myst from the forum?" in the chatbox and you just said "huh?" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I'd play the hands just like you did... At least against typical opponents/without reads, can't remember how the players were like anymore.

[Myst]

Yeah, sorry about that. Didnt want for players to find out about our precious forums and realize that people actually THINK about poker.

Next time, say "brown trout" or something. Ill respond in kind.

[lastchance]

Could fold 53o in the first one, BB calls a wide range, and your FE isn't high.

Push A5s automatically.

[Myst]

[ QUOTE ]
Could fold 53o in the first one, BB calls a wide range, and your FE isn't high.

Push A5s automatically.

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How is my FE not high? Note stack sizes. If he folds, he is still at the same stack size as the other short stack, with the other short stack hitting the blind first.

Well, if he was a thinking person, thats what HE SHOULD think.

[ChuckNorris]

Yeah, I understand. I don't think that "the forum" is very revealing to anyone though. Hopefully we won't see at the tables anymore [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[ilya]

The A5s is an easy push.

The first one...yeah I guess. If it was the medium stack who was UTG, I'd prefer folding. But given how the stacks are arranged I think pushing is fine.

[lastchance]

Yeah, should notice that other stuff first. Having that t1375 stack increases your chance of getting a fold from almost zero to 70-80%, which should be enough to push this if your opponent thinks... BB doesn't have a sure "fold ITM," so it's not QQ+, but it should be tight enough if you haven't been lagging it up.

[Daliman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Could fold 53o in the first one, BB calls a wide range, and your FE isn't high.

Push A5s automatically.

[/ QUOTE ]

How is my FE not high? Note stack sizes. If he folds, he is still at the same stack size as the other short stack, with the other short stack hitting the blind first.

Well, if he was a thinking person, thats what HE SHOULD think.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's nice to have SOMETHING playable if you get called. 53o is not. THis is yet another case of being a pushbot with a stack. Unless done VERY judciously, this kind of play will be a long-run loser for you.

[Big Limpin']

#1: YOu push rags into a shorty...ok, im not an "ICM guy" maybe its +EV....but my thinking is that the shorties aretn the ones to bully. Save the chedda for when you can push into the medium-stack's BB


#2 blinds 250-500, MP fold, hero has an ace. I wouldnt think twice about pushing.